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Stephanie
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Southerngale already brought up the fact that the thread is treading too dangerously to being locked. It is a thread that has seen a great discussion of what is currently happening over in the Middle East.
FOR THE LAST TIME, DO NOT BRING POLITICS INTO THIS THREAD OR IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN. Temporary vacations may be issued as well.
FOR THE LAST TIME, DO NOT BRING POLITICS INTO THIS THREAD OR IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN. Temporary vacations may be issued as well.
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Here is a interesting map of the war for anyone interested:
http://www.debka.com/pictures/Lebanon.jpg
It shows the reach of Hezbollah missiles as well
http://www.debka.com/pictures/Lebanon.jpg
It shows the reach of Hezbollah missiles as well
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Israel strikes back after Haifa attacked
Hezbollah rockets sent deeper into northern Israel from Lebanon
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- The Israeli military and Hezbollah traded deadly attacks for a fifth straight day on Sunday, with the Lebanon-based militants striking Haifa and other towns deeper inside Israel.
World powers meeting in Russia Sunday appealed for an end to the violence, even as Israel warned of fierce retaliation for the Haifa attack, which killed eight Israelis.
Hours after the Haifa attack, Israeli airstrikes pounded the southern suburbs of Beirut on Sunday.
Twenty people were killed and 50 were wounded Sunday south of Beirut in an Israeli airstrike on the Lebanese port city of Tyre, according to Lebanese television.
Later Sunday, Hezbollah rockets hit three northern Israeli towns more than 40 kilometers (25 miles) south of the Lebanese border, the farthest south of any rocket attacks to date, the Israeli military said.
Minor injuries were reported when the missiles hit the towns of Nazareth, Afula and Givat E'la near Israel's border with the West Bank, Israeli officials said.
Those reports came shortly after the airport was struck in south Beirut, sending a fuel storage depot up in flames.
Hezbollah claimed responsibility for the attack on Haifa, saying it was responding to overnight Israeli airstrikes inside Lebanon.
One of the Hezbollah rockets hit a railway depot, killing at least eight and wounding 17 others -- six of them seriously -- Israeli medical services said. (Watch train depot shattered by rocket -- 2:29)
The Israeli military said subsequent airstrikes hit buildings where Hezbollah members lived and worked.
The IDF said it targeted the villages of Tsur and Aitaron in south Lebanon. And in Beirut's southern suburbs, a building housing a Hezbollah radio station was leveled.
Israeli troops also used 155 mm howitzers to shell targets inside southern Lebanon that they said were used by Hezbollah to launch rockets.
Residents in southern Lebanon had been warned two to three hours in advance of the attacks, the IDF said.
Lebanese officials said Sunday that 104 people have been killed and 286 wounded in the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah militants that began Wednesday.
A total of 12 Israeli civilians and 12 Israeli military personnel have been killed since Wednesday. More than 100 others have been wounded.
Eight Canadians were among those killed Sunday in southern Lebanon, a spokesman for Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay said.
Hezbollah: Just beginning
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said Sunday that his fighters still have plenty of weapons and the will to keep fighting.
"Our fighters are ready," he said in a televised address in Arabic to the Lebanese people.
"As we surprised [Israel] in the sea, and as we surprised them in Haifa, we will surprise them with what's beyond Haifa," Nasrallah said.
He accused Israel of attacking civilian targets, while insisting that Hezbollah has aimed its rocket attacks only at the Israeli military.
"The enemy does not know our capabilities. ... We are still in the beginning," he said.
In Israel, Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres acknowledged that civilian casualties have occurred but said Israeli forces "are extremely careful" about distinguishing between Hezbollah and civilian targets.
"We are being attacked indiscriminately," he said.
Israeli Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz said the missile contained Syrian ammunition.
"The Iranians supply Hezbollah with weapons and technology," said Mofaz, Israel's former defense minister. "Syria is taking part."
The weapon was a Katyusha rocket with a range of 35 to 40 kilometers (22-25 miles), IDF spokeswoman Miri Regev said.Haifa, Israel's third largest city, is about 35 kilometers south of the Lebanese border.
Iran rejected a similar Israeli assertion that it supplied Hezbollah the missile that struck an Israeli warship Friday, killing four Israeli sailors.
The Israeli military found the bodies of three of the sailors Sunday. The body of the fourth sailor had been found the day before.
Rockets also hit the northern towns of Akko and Nahariya on Sunday, and residents of northern Israel were told to take cover in bomb shelters. (Watch fear gripping Israeli towns -- 1:45)
Israel on alert as far south as Tel Aviv
The Israeli military warned residents as far south as Tel Aviv to raise their level of awareness, as the country is on alert against conventional weapons, according to the IDF.
The Israeli military said Hezbollah has fired more than 450 rockets into northern Israel since Wednesday.
Speaking before his weekly Cabinet meeting, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the attack "will have far-reaching implications" on Israel's relationship with its "northern neighbors."
A spokesman for the Italian government said Lebanon has been given a list of Israeli conditions for a cease-fire that includes the release of two Israeli soldiers captured by Hezbollah, the withdrawal of the group from south Lebanon and an end to rocket attacks on Israel.
The conditions were relayed to Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora in a phone call by Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi, according to spokesman Silvio Sircana.
In Beirut's Parliament building, Siniora met during the afternoon with European Union Foreign Affairs and Security Chief Javier Solana.
"The gates of hell have been opened on Lebanon," Siniora told CNN. He called Israel's actions "disproportionate," and predicted they would encourage extremists.
In St. Petersburg, Russia, the Group of Eight countries issued a statement expressing "deepening concern" about the situation, particularly "the rising civilian casualties on all sides and damage to infrastructure."
Despite the agreements expressed in the statement, the G-8 countries are divided over who is to blame and how to move forward, with France, Russia and Italy suggesting Israel went too far in its actions.
Hezbollah, which is backed by Syria and Iran, is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and Israel. The group holds 23 of the 128 seats in Lebanon's parliament. (What is Hezbollah?)
Other developments:
* Israeli forces bombed the Jiyeh power plant south of the Lebanese capital early Sunday, sending plumes of smoke billowing across the sky, Lebanese army sources said. Israel also struck northern Lebanon near its border with Syria.
* Israeli aircraft blasted the Palestinian Authority's Foreign Ministry offices in Gaza early Monday for the second time in less than a week, Palestinian sources and the Israeli military said. (Full story)
* France announced plans Sunday to begin evacuating its citizens and other mostly European nationals out of Beirut by sea, while U.S. officials said they were planning a large-scale evacuation of Americans from Lebanon. (Full story)
CNN's John Vause, Richard Roth, Paula Hancocks, Alessio Vinci and Sandy Petrykowski contributed to this report.
Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/ ... index.html
Hezbollah rockets sent deeper into northern Israel from Lebanon
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- The Israeli military and Hezbollah traded deadly attacks for a fifth straight day on Sunday, with the Lebanon-based militants striking Haifa and other towns deeper inside Israel.
World powers meeting in Russia Sunday appealed for an end to the violence, even as Israel warned of fierce retaliation for the Haifa attack, which killed eight Israelis.
Hours after the Haifa attack, Israeli airstrikes pounded the southern suburbs of Beirut on Sunday.
Twenty people were killed and 50 were wounded Sunday south of Beirut in an Israeli airstrike on the Lebanese port city of Tyre, according to Lebanese television.
Later Sunday, Hezbollah rockets hit three northern Israeli towns more than 40 kilometers (25 miles) south of the Lebanese border, the farthest south of any rocket attacks to date, the Israeli military said.
Minor injuries were reported when the missiles hit the towns of Nazareth, Afula and Givat E'la near Israel's border with the West Bank, Israeli officials said.
Those reports came shortly after the airport was struck in south Beirut, sending a fuel storage depot up in flames.
Hezbollah claimed responsibility for the attack on Haifa, saying it was responding to overnight Israeli airstrikes inside Lebanon.
One of the Hezbollah rockets hit a railway depot, killing at least eight and wounding 17 others -- six of them seriously -- Israeli medical services said. (Watch train depot shattered by rocket -- 2:29)
The Israeli military said subsequent airstrikes hit buildings where Hezbollah members lived and worked.
The IDF said it targeted the villages of Tsur and Aitaron in south Lebanon. And in Beirut's southern suburbs, a building housing a Hezbollah radio station was leveled.
Israeli troops also used 155 mm howitzers to shell targets inside southern Lebanon that they said were used by Hezbollah to launch rockets.
Residents in southern Lebanon had been warned two to three hours in advance of the attacks, the IDF said.
Lebanese officials said Sunday that 104 people have been killed and 286 wounded in the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah militants that began Wednesday.
A total of 12 Israeli civilians and 12 Israeli military personnel have been killed since Wednesday. More than 100 others have been wounded.
Eight Canadians were among those killed Sunday in southern Lebanon, a spokesman for Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay said.
Hezbollah: Just beginning
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said Sunday that his fighters still have plenty of weapons and the will to keep fighting.
"Our fighters are ready," he said in a televised address in Arabic to the Lebanese people.
"As we surprised [Israel] in the sea, and as we surprised them in Haifa, we will surprise them with what's beyond Haifa," Nasrallah said.
He accused Israel of attacking civilian targets, while insisting that Hezbollah has aimed its rocket attacks only at the Israeli military.
"The enemy does not know our capabilities. ... We are still in the beginning," he said.
In Israel, Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres acknowledged that civilian casualties have occurred but said Israeli forces "are extremely careful" about distinguishing between Hezbollah and civilian targets.
"We are being attacked indiscriminately," he said.
Israeli Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz said the missile contained Syrian ammunition.
"The Iranians supply Hezbollah with weapons and technology," said Mofaz, Israel's former defense minister. "Syria is taking part."
The weapon was a Katyusha rocket with a range of 35 to 40 kilometers (22-25 miles), IDF spokeswoman Miri Regev said.Haifa, Israel's third largest city, is about 35 kilometers south of the Lebanese border.
Iran rejected a similar Israeli assertion that it supplied Hezbollah the missile that struck an Israeli warship Friday, killing four Israeli sailors.
The Israeli military found the bodies of three of the sailors Sunday. The body of the fourth sailor had been found the day before.
Rockets also hit the northern towns of Akko and Nahariya on Sunday, and residents of northern Israel were told to take cover in bomb shelters. (Watch fear gripping Israeli towns -- 1:45)
Israel on alert as far south as Tel Aviv
The Israeli military warned residents as far south as Tel Aviv to raise their level of awareness, as the country is on alert against conventional weapons, according to the IDF.
The Israeli military said Hezbollah has fired more than 450 rockets into northern Israel since Wednesday.
Speaking before his weekly Cabinet meeting, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the attack "will have far-reaching implications" on Israel's relationship with its "northern neighbors."
A spokesman for the Italian government said Lebanon has been given a list of Israeli conditions for a cease-fire that includes the release of two Israeli soldiers captured by Hezbollah, the withdrawal of the group from south Lebanon and an end to rocket attacks on Israel.
The conditions were relayed to Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora in a phone call by Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi, according to spokesman Silvio Sircana.
In Beirut's Parliament building, Siniora met during the afternoon with European Union Foreign Affairs and Security Chief Javier Solana.
"The gates of hell have been opened on Lebanon," Siniora told CNN. He called Israel's actions "disproportionate," and predicted they would encourage extremists.
In St. Petersburg, Russia, the Group of Eight countries issued a statement expressing "deepening concern" about the situation, particularly "the rising civilian casualties on all sides and damage to infrastructure."
Despite the agreements expressed in the statement, the G-8 countries are divided over who is to blame and how to move forward, with France, Russia and Italy suggesting Israel went too far in its actions.
Hezbollah, which is backed by Syria and Iran, is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and Israel. The group holds 23 of the 128 seats in Lebanon's parliament. (What is Hezbollah?)
Other developments:
* Israeli forces bombed the Jiyeh power plant south of the Lebanese capital early Sunday, sending plumes of smoke billowing across the sky, Lebanese army sources said. Israel also struck northern Lebanon near its border with Syria.
* Israeli aircraft blasted the Palestinian Authority's Foreign Ministry offices in Gaza early Monday for the second time in less than a week, Palestinian sources and the Israeli military said. (Full story)
* France announced plans Sunday to begin evacuating its citizens and other mostly European nationals out of Beirut by sea, while U.S. officials said they were planning a large-scale evacuation of Americans from Lebanon. (Full story)
CNN's John Vause, Richard Roth, Paula Hancocks, Alessio Vinci and Sandy Petrykowski contributed to this report.
Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/ ... index.html
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FOX NEWS ALERT:
Hezbollah leader declares:
"Everything is Fair Game!"
Big surprise there huh?
A2K
Hezbollah leader declares:
"Everything is Fair Game!"
Big surprise there huh?
A2K
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stormtruth wrote:Here is a interesting map of the war for anyone interested:
http://www.debka.com/pictures/Lebanon.jpg
It shows the reach of Hezbollah missiles as well
That is really good!
Hezbollah seem a lot better epuipped these days and that has to be a worrying thing. I think we are all in real trouble if Israel decides this is the time to put and end to all this fighting once and for all. If they do that I am sure we will see Syria and Iran come out of the shadows.
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Here is something that no one has mentioned. Any possibility that these Katusha rockets (sp?) could land in Western Jordan. I wonder if anyone in that area is just as nervous even though they aren't directly involved. I was looking at a map earlier this evening and thought I might mention that.
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Stephanie wrote:Southerngale already brought up the fact that the thread is treading too dangerously to being locked. It is a thread that has seen a great discussion of what is currently happening over in the Middle East.
FOR THE LAST TIME, DO NOT BRING POLITICS INTO THIS THREAD OR IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN. Temporary vacations may be issued as well.
Sorry, for bringing politicis into this. I didn't mean to.
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nholley wrote:
Unpopular is an understatement. On more than one occasion, you certainly seem to sympathize with terrorists. I find this and your comments appalling and will leave it at that so I don't have to ban myself.
And keep politics out of it...you're treading on thin ice here. This is not even a thread about 9/11. May I suggest a break from here?[/quote]
This was my point, to YOU they are terrorists in THEIR minds they are soldiers.[/quote]
Umm, Derek brought 9-11 into picture. Did you forget?
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Israel, Hezbollah trade attacks
• Beirut airport in flames after new strike
• IDF: Hezbollah rockets hit Nazareth, Afula, Givat E'la
• Civilians reported killed in strike on city of Tyre
• Eight Canadian citizens killed in Israeli strikes
• U.S. military arrives to evacuate U.S. citizens
• Hezbollah rocket kills 8 in Haifa train depot
• Beirut airport in flames after new strike
• IDF: Hezbollah rockets hit Nazareth, Afula, Givat E'la
• Civilians reported killed in strike on city of Tyre
• Eight Canadian citizens killed in Israeli strikes
• U.S. military arrives to evacuate U.S. citizens
• Hezbollah rocket kills 8 in Haifa train depot
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NBCintern wrote:nholley wrote:
Unpopular is an understatement. On more than one occasion, you certainly seem to sympathize with terrorists. I find this and your comments appalling and will leave it at that so I don't have to ban myself.
And keep politics out of it...you're treading on thin ice here. This is not even a thread about 9/11. May I suggest a break from here?
This was my point, to YOU they are terrorists in THEIR minds they are soldiers.
Umm, Derek brought 9-11 into picture. Did you forget?
Can you not just stop with the argument already?
PLEASE!!!!
Can you we please just stick with the facts about what is going on in the Mid-East right now. If your not sure what we are talking about please refer to the title of the thread.
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Politics aside, Israel IMO has finally decided enough is enough. I would expect them to enter Lebanon and systematically rid the area of Hezbollah and any other enemy combatants. If they do in fact move back into Lebanon, than we will see just how far Iran wants to take it. I'm convinced that Syria will only get involved if Iran decides to openly do so as well. Then again, how does Iran, from a geographical standpoint enter the equation, if not by long-range weaponry?
Kevin brought up a good point that regardless, Israel can handle anything conventionally the other Middle Eastern countries can throw at them. Now the question becomes how crazy Ahmadinejad truly is. The scary thought is because of his relentless banter against Isreal, he may have just backed himself into a corner and necessitate the need to become openly involved, and un-conventionally at that.
Kevin brought up a good point that regardless, Israel can handle anything conventionally the other Middle Eastern countries can throw at them. Now the question becomes how crazy Ahmadinejad truly is. The scary thought is because of his relentless banter against Isreal, he may have just backed himself into a corner and necessitate the need to become openly involved, and un-conventionally at that.
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