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#4461 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:38 am

Frank2 wrote:AirForceMet,

I wouldn't say boom - more like a pop - the circulation itself has becomer smaller since yesterday (it was already small), so, once it crosses the Cuba coast (looks likely), that should be that...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


Look at the GHCC loop...the 1615Z image. It's pretty widespread on the east side and still expanding (for now).

Yes...it's small but it is a complex...not a single thuderstorm (that's a pop). The tops are in the -60C range...which is decent.

Question is...does it continue to expand?

And BTW...why do you all look at the SSD page for VIS when you have the 1KM GHCC available? :lol:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html
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#4462 Postby boca » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:38 am

Chris is like my mother in law she comes down from New Jersey stays awhile and annoys me then leaves,and the whole cycle starts again.
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#4463 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:39 am

well as many have stated, the convection helps chris hold on just a little longer
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#4464 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:41 am

I like that 1/2-mile sector because it's just a closer view of what's happening - I don't think this system will last much longer, despite the isolated convection...

Last night's complex was much larger, but, even that dissipated. Once it crosses the Cuban coast, that should be that...

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#4465 Postby Stormavoider » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:41 am

Air Force Met wrote:
Frank2 wrote:AirForceMet,

I wouldn't say boom - more like a pop - the circulation itself has becomer smaller since yesterday (it was already small), so, once it crosses the Cuba coast (looks likely), that should be that...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


Look at the GHCC loop...the 1615Z image. It's pretty widespread on the east side and still expanding (for now).

Yes...it's small but it is a complex...not a single thuderstorm (that's a pop). The tops are in the -60C range...which is decent.

Question is...does it continue to expand?



Some starting to its north too!

And BTW...why do you all look at the SSD page for VIS when you have the 1KM GHCC available? :lol:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html


Some starting to its north too!
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#4466 Postby jasons2k » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:42 am

Air Force Met wrote:BOOM. Convection really firing. Southly impact from Hispaniola starting to lessen maybe and it is heading into an area with a higher heat content.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1 ... 6215ca.jpg


See, now that just figures. I finally kill it off and you have to drop a bomb like that.

Chris just has to keep on with it :onfire: :onfire: :onfire: :onfire:
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#4467 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:43 am

Frank2 wrote:In fact, some breaking news here - it appears the Chris might be opening into a wave (it seems to now have a positive north-south tilt, and, the center is much less defined) in the last photo or two:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html


Well...it's not really breaking news...I've been talking about that chance all day...but if you will go to the GHCC site... you will still see the eastward moving clouds. You cannot see the detail you need to see on the SSD page...PLUS the images are every 30 minutes...compaired to every 5 or 10.

Now...better resolution...30 minutes compaired to 5 or 10...

Take your pick. :lol:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html
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#4468 Postby Jam151 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:44 am

GHCC also shows an outflow boundary spreading north from the convective burst. i think this is more shear related than anything.
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#4469 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:45 am

Air Force Met wrote:And BTW...why do you all look at the SSD page for VIS when you have the 1KM GHCC available? :lol:


I tend to use both. The GHCC site updates more often and has far better resolution, but is pretty slow for me. And besides the floater loops have all those nifty overlays. :D
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#4470 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:45 am

Frank2 wrote:I like that 1/2-mile sector because it's just a closer view of what's happening - I don't think this system will last much longer, despite the isolated convection...

Last night's complex was much larger, but, even that dissipated. Once it crosses the Cuban coast, that should be that...

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It dissipated because the inflow started coming off of Hispaniola....as predicted.
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#4471 Postby southerngale » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:45 am

AFM, what is the main link you use to get vis and IR from GHCC? I use the link below and it only updates every 1/2 hour. I tried to find the link you posted above on here, and couldn't, only a similar one with a similar view, but it only updates every 1/2 hour.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/
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#4472 Postby westmoon » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:46 am

Chris must be a timex he takes a licken and keeps on ticken :cheesy:
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#4473 Postby jasons2k » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:47 am

There's some popping on the west side now as well.
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#4474 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:49 am

southerngale wrote:AFM, what is the main link you use to get vis and IR from GHCC? I use the link below and it only updates every 1/2 hour. I tried to find the link you posted above on here, and couldn't, only a similar one with a similar view, but it only updates every 1/2 hour.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/


http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconusir.html

When trying to determine if a wave is open or closed...or if a TD is open or closed...you have to used a site that is frequent and HI-Res...and the SSD is not it. It has great overlays but when you need a high res to follow a small cloud element for 5 minute time spans with the vis...you can't do it.
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#4475 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:49 am

jschlitz wrote:There's some popping on the west side now as well.


well he may definatley be back on the long road to recovery, assuming he doesn't crash into Cuba.
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#4476 Postby Stormavoider » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:51 am

It's ALIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!
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#4477 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:52 am

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#4478 Postby storms in NC » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:52 am

Okay who gave it the shock treatment?
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#4479 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:53 am

jschlitz wrote:There's some popping on the west side now as well.


Yep. The TCHP is higher in the area he is moving into. That might be helping some.
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#4480 Postby caneman » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:53 am

Frank2 wrote:I like that 1/2-mile sector because it's just a closer view of what's happening - I don't think this system will last much longer, despite the isolated convection...

Last night's complex was much larger, but, even that dissipated. Once it crosses the Cuban coast, that should be that...

Frank


Frank,

You're to funny. We've got the wishca_____ on here and then Frank. Where some see a storm developing and there is none. You are the opposite and seem to always see dissapation. NOt a knock. I Love your posts and reading about all you've been thru, I can certainly see why you would be that way considering how much you know about the devastation these things bring. Keep on postin bro. It's good to have the counterbalance on a sometimes overhyped board which include me sometimes :wink:
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