Possible Major Long Tracker Fish Where is Everybody?

[Scorpion]

Florence has clearly been a dud. Thus, am not tracking attm, though will start tracking more seriously when it ramps up.

Are you kidding? Its strengthening now.

[Stormavoider]

If a giant asteroid was hurling through our solar system with no chance of a collision, interest would be limited.
If it's trajectory was going to be altered by a close encounter with say Jupiter and it was going to proceed on some uncertain path, everyone with Internet access would become experts.
HUMAN NATURE!

[Pebbles]

i've been following this as time permits. Don't have much to add constructively because the storm is just developing and I feel it's too early to say exactly where things will go 5 days from now.

I bet in a couple days if/when this thing really revs up you'll see more people. But no where near the amount you saw with most progged to make landfall storms.

Now if the models start trending west and a landfall starts looking possible somewhere on the eastern coast people will be back in droves. I've noticed when the media really starts latching on to a storm is when the boards start going banana's!

Kinda enjoying the 'quietness' going on right now on the forum. Much easier to find the info I wanna find from the peeps I wanna hear it from without having to dredge through all the minor OMG LOOK AT THE LEET STORM attitude that has seemed to be popping up more and more.

I don't mind a bit of sillyness once in a while (known to be that way myself) but it's gotten almost horrible bad with the amount of OMG I"M BORED or THIS SEASON IS DEAD and OVER. Funny thing is the pacific has been great from tropics this year! And unlike last year getting to check it out. I'm finding if people are really into tropics because they enjoy nature they are checking out the pacific storms and Florance right now. Good time to figure out who's in what catagory when it comes to a hobby and tracking storms

[cajungal]

Usually the only time I ever post is if a storm is actually forecasted to hit the United States. Mainly if a storm is going to possibly affect my region on the Gulf Coast.

[wxmann_91]

Florence has clearly been a dud. Thus, am not tracking attm, though will start tracking more seriously when it ramps up.

Are you kidding? Its strengthening now.

It's still ugly, IMO.

[Robjohn53]

There are a few here that live for the storms making US landfall why i am not really sure. Excitment i'm sure is part of it. But the one thing i have learned from last year and the year befor is: Excitment is ok at times but when you look at what Katrina Rita And Wilma did last year and Charley Jeanne Dennis & Frances from 2004 it's not all that exciting to me. Why? because from 2004 i still to this day see blue tarped roofs. From 2005 Thousands of people still homless some where wondering if they will every come back. And less and less chance of help for them. Picking up the peices is not as easy as we are lead to believe..and the ones with protection on there homes are battling still to get on with there lives as well. So i guess i set and watch learn and try to understand why thease things go where they go. And getting a heads up on things is another pluss for surviving. No where on TV can you get Graphs and data first hand like here. So if it's understanding them and knowing when to get out before they come is at the least what we can gain from being here then this site is a blessing to all of us. And i find that tracking a fish is just as important, Instead of understanding why it can come here i like knowing why it won't come here as well....Thanks to all the ProMets and others here we can learn and understand and one day, what we learn, just might save our lives....Just my 2 cents

[AnnularCane]

Florence has clearly been a dud. Thus, am not tracking attm, though will start tracking more seriously when it ramps up.

Are you kidding? Its strengthening now.

It's still ugly, IMO.

Awww come on, she's not ugly. She's just having some problems with shear.

[rainydaze]

I for one am just tired of this same ole argument. Why can't we all just accept people for who they are. Do you know that I am more interested in reading this board about hurricanes than I am learning every little thing to do with hurricanes. That's why you don't hear from me much and why I never give an opinion about any storm. But I know all of you who post and I enjoy each opinion amateur, pro or in the middle. You each have a face to me that I've made up in my mind and you each have a distinct personality that comes across in your posts. For instance I am getting a little worried about Josephine's questions such as: Is it possible Ernesto could hit the west coast of Fla? Is it possible FloJo could hit the US? because in case you haven't noticed he's been right a few times! (see Jeanne 2004 too) I love the tenacity of Dixiebreeze who always insists on going against the grain and starting a new topic. I love how patient Air Force Met is with the amateurs always trying to teach them in his posts...even when they don't listen. I admire Scorpion's boldness to say YES I want a storm. I am in awe of Kevin Cho's graphics for his forecasts. I love EATS IN and GUTS OUT even thought I haven't seem them lately. I actually miss WX Risk and his smart ass behavior...but at least we still have Derecho. I can respect Derek's constant professionalism always playing it straight. And let's not even get started with Cyclone Eye....when does this man eat? When does he sleep? And a big Yahoo for Chad and his crew and all the mods. There are so many more of you and don't be offended if I didn't mention you because I am just getting tired of typing...lol. Maybe through a little bit of perspective and humor we can all learn to find something special about each poster and stop having this same ole argument.

[Rainband]

Nice post Rainydaze

[LAwxrgal]

Amen Rainydaze for the excellent post...Heck I even miss willjnewton....

Also, for a lot of posters, school has begun and work and family issues continue to take up more of their time (I can vouch for the latter).

In a community of this size there are bound to be lots of different types of people, different types of posts, different types of posters. And everyone is here for one reason and one reason only... because we're fascinated with weather and all it has to offer us, good and bad.

[Josephine96]

Thank you for the praise Rainy..

As to answer the topics question.. If Flo Jo was making a crash course with Tampa, NOLA, Biloxi, Miami, Jax, or any major metro area.. This board would be smashing records..

But a Cat 3-4 fish.. just doesn't seem to excite anybody. Unless it's Fabian that obliterated Bermuda or Juan when he took a chunk out of Canada.. {Believe Juan was only a 1 or 2 though}

It's human nature as stated.. If it's coming..we're excited and ramped up. Fish= ho hum la di da.. bring on Gordon please..

Maybe that helps..

[journey]

This is my first ever post on Storm2k, although I have been following the board for a few years. I don’t post because frankly my area of expertise is in a completely different area (government - in graduate school now..) and I have nothing of quality to offer in meteorology. However, I still do find the storms fascinating and I do watch them all...including the fish storms. And while I cant offer anything to the discussion, I enjoy the wide range of views this board offers – from rank amateurs to professionals.

I noticed that after Katrina & Rita last year these posts immediately started popping up and come up every few days since then. Others have mentioned that this has been beaten to death, and it has, but I'm going to add my worthless opinion on here as I can deal with philosophy (just not meteorology!):

People are intrigued that which deviates from the norm. Thankfully, massive catastrophic destruction from hurricanes is a relatively unusual event. Although they hit land almost every year, they rarely if ever cause the sheer amount of destruction that we witnessed in Katrina. If I had to guess, the largest storm before that would have been the Galveston Hurricane (which, by the way, started my field - Public Administration). Because that hurricane was before the era of mass media, the general public never had the opportunity to really experience the damage in “real time.” Last year for the first time, we had a hurricane that was destructive and widely covered by the media. While I am sure people can point out other hurricanes of similar intensity hitting land, this is the first time I am aware of where a storm was so widely covered.

To some degree, everyone finds a morbid fascination with these after-math scenes that we saw so much last year, no matter how hard our conscious tries to suppress it. We dont do it so much because we revel in the gore and horrible quality of it, but because it presents a situation that is different than what we are used to.

Some people will always want hurricanes to hit them for a variety of reasons, and I would even venture to say an approaching hurricane raises the excitement even for those who have been through them before (and I have - and I know - its anything but fun).

Here is the Storm2k pattern I have observed. This sequence of events doesn’t always happen in this order nor do they happen every time, but that’s why it’s a pattern. Id even venture to call it a sociology model, but I don’t want to cause confusion with the weather models.

1. Invest forms
2. One group of people immediately wishcasts that its going to be a cat 5 and hit whatever area they live in, and start drawing comparisons to whatever major hurricane hit them before (ie, it looks like Andrew/Katrina/Rita, etc.)
3. Another group downplays development, states it will go fishing, and believes it will go “poof”
4. Professionals step in and point out its to early to tell where its going or what the strength is going to be.
5. Invest becomes TD

Then we cycle through this pattern (2-4) at the TS and hurricane cat 1, hurricane cat 2 stages until we get a major hurricane. At that point, what happens seems to be dependant on a lot of other factors.

/end rant

[Josephine96]

Good post.. It actually makes a ton of sense..

[Stormcenter]

some here only want to see the United States smashed up

Unfortunately Derek that is true. It's heard to believe after last season that anyone would feel that way. I

[Bailey1777]

Rainydaze I didn't really know you before that post but now as you say you have a face to me and I salute you. Good stuff..........

[Rieyeuxs]

What's frustrating for me is that I don't know enough to factor in all the variables most others automatically see. Personally, I don't care whether its a fish or not (no, I don't want anyone to suffer through a hurricane's aftereffects). But I haven't seen a classically developing storm yet this year. The ULL's are tearing development apart. I'd like to see more clearer forming storms, watch intensification, love annulars , but we haven't seen any Atlantic storms make a strong, sustained cat 1, much less eyewall development and ERC debates. Whether it stays a fish is only a plus. But when you want to watch hurricanes, I'm having to look to the Pacific; which I have no clue about the weather patterns there to make any kind of statements. I have a hard enough time understanding what effects the models on this side of the pond!!!

[journey]

Good post.. It actually makes a ton of sense..

Thanks I actually did a undergraduate thesis on political parties, and A LOT of my theories got their basis from what I saw going on here at Storm2k. Certianly this board isnt a political party, but the amount of overlapping groups and debate makes it alot like the US political landscape. I think it was good, and it won $2,500.

Who knew Storm2k could pay so well?

[wxmann_91]

some here only want to see the United States smashed up

Unfortunately Derek that is true. It's heard to believe after last season that anyone would feel that way. I

And why are we judging here?

[caribepr]

Good post.. It actually makes a ton of sense..

Thanks I actually did a undergraduate thesis on political parties, and A LOT of my theories got their basis from what I saw going on here at Storm2k. Certianly this board isnt a political party, but the amount of overlapping groups and debate makes it alot like the US political landscape. I think it was good, and it won $2,500.

Who knew Storm2k could pay so well?

So...you sent part of it as a donation to support S2K right?

[fci]

I for one am just tired of this same ole argument. Why can't we all just accept people for who they are. Do you know that I am more interested in reading this board about hurricanes than I am learning every little thing to do with hurricanes. That's why you don't hear from me much and why I never give an opinion about any storm. But I know all of you who post and I enjoy each opinion amateur, pro or in the middle. You each have a face to me that I've made up in my mind and you each have a distinct personality that comes across in your posts. For instance I am getting a little worried about Josephine's questions such as: Is it possible Ernesto could hit the west coast of Fla? Is it possible FloJo could hit the US? because in case you haven't noticed he's been right a few times! (see Jeanne 2004 too) I love the tenacity of Dixiebreeze who always insists on going against the grain and starting a new topic. I love how patient Air Force Met is with the amateurs always trying to teach them in his posts...even when they don't listen. I admire Scorpion's boldness to say YES I want a storm. I am in awe of Kevin Cho's graphics for his forecasts. I love EATS IN and GUTS OUT even thought I haven't seem them lately. I actually miss WX Risk and his smart ass behavior...but at least we still have Derecho. I can respect Derek's constant professionalism always playing it straight. And let's not even get started with Cyclone Eye....when does this man eat? When does he sleep? And a big Yahoo for Chad and his crew and all the mods. There are so many more of you and don't be offended if I didn't mention you because I am just getting tired of typing...lol. Maybe through a little bit of perspective and humor we can all learn to find something special about each poster and stop having this same ole argument.

You got it ALL right!
Classic post that should be archived.