IMO an active season should be determined by U.S THREATs

[cpdaman]

and following that logic we have thankfully had a inactive season so far ( two weak tropical storms) keep this from being very inactive

it only takes ONE

with that said we did not have any signifacant impacts last year ( to my memory) although ernesto threatened for a day , this year Dean "threatened" for two days i.e when texas and louisiana panicked and rightly so.

[RL3AO]

The U.S. is not the only country in the basin, so no.

[TheEuropean]

I say No. Season is active if more storms form than normal. If 15 storms and hurricanes slam into the caribbean you would call a season inactive? I say No, this would be an actice season. The U.S. is not the only county in the Atlantic Basin.

[x-y-no]

I strongly disagree.

If you had said "total landfalls anywhere including the islands, South and Central America" then you'd have a valid argument. But not just the US.

[cpdaman]

sorry it's just my perspective

i see it not unanimous

but i think it is a perception that some may be ashamed to announce, like the excitement from seeing a storm headed for the u.s (but to a lesser degree)

i mean i think it's politically correct to include the islands of the caribean and mexico and bermuda but MOST on the board are citizens of the united states and i think although we may have a degree of concern about the above mentioned places, it pails in comparison to the lower 48, and that is why , the activity of a season should be Very heavily weighted on the threats to the lower 48

[cycloneye]

Is the number of named systems that count for an active season or not,regardeless if they hit the U.S. or not so I say no.

[JTD]

Slightly off the main topic,

But I've noticed how category 4/5 hurricanes have a lot lower casualty and damage toll when they hit say Cancun, Cozumel or say Central America versus when they hit the CONUS.

CONUS seems to struggle to deal with canes a lot more than those areas and canes are far more devastating there.

Same with Canada. Look at Juan. It was just a cat 2 and remarkably devastating.

Look at Wilma. It made landfall in Cozumel at what 150 mph and killed remarkably few people. Wilma hitting CONUS at 150 would have been an unprecedented disaster.

Carribbean and Mexico seems better made for these storms than U.S./Canada and can handle them better. Heck, Look at Cuba. Has done very well with the threats over the past few years.

Mitch was a rare exception. And the other example some might cite is Hurricane Joan I believe. I call 150 people dying from a cat 4 in Central America years ago pretty lucky and the death toll would be much higher in CONUS/Canada.

So, in fact, I don't think there is anything evil when posters say they hope massive hurricanes don't hit the CONUS. If they have to go somewhere, the Carribbean/Central America is a much better place for them.

Of course, recurving east of Bermuda is best.

[cpdaman]

i was just saying it "should be" IMO

i don't see how sighting how it is done currently supports it should not be changed

for instance imagine CNN said

" hurricane forecasters predict a high level of storms will threaten the caribean and mexico as well as the open atlantic, while the U.S will be unscathed, except a couple weak tropical storms"

NOW this is suppose to be taken by the average american, as an active season or inactive season?

c'mon

[RL3AO]

I'm guessing it is population density Jason.

[Coredesat]

i was just saying it "should be" IMO

i don't see how sighting how it is done currently supports it should not be changed

for instance imagine CNN said

" hurricane forecasters predict a high level of storms will threaten the caribean and mexico as well as the open atlantic, while the U.S will be unscathed, except a couple weak tropical storms"

NOW this is suppose to be taken by the average american, as an active season or inactive season?

c'mon

Yes, because there are only Americans in the Atlantic basin. This is arguably the most closed-minded proposal/idea/thread I've seen in three years on this forum. The NHC has responsibility for all countries in this basin, not just the US. News outlets here will only care about the U.S. because they're American networks. They don't care if it's not happening to us.

An active season is a season with lots of storms or a high ACE. Simple as that.

[Category 5]

i was just saying it "should be" IMO

i don't see how sighting how it is done currently supports it should not be changed

for instance imagine CNN said

" hurricane forecasters predict a high level of storms will threaten the caribean and mexico as well as the open atlantic, while the U.S will be unscathed, except a couple weak tropical storms"

NOW this is suppose to be taken by the average american, as an active season or inactive season?

c'mon

Yes, because there are only Americans in the Atlantic basin. This is arguably the most closed-minded proposal/idea/thread I've seen in three years on this forum.

I'll have to second that. What About Mexico, Cuba, The islands, Hispanola, the Bahamas, Burmuda, Central America, Canada, the Azores, and Spain? Do we just blow them off and pretend they don't exist?

Your proposal basically states, if Category 5's into the caribbean islands every week, it's an inactive season. Please make sense of this.

[cpdaman]

ok fair enough

but i'm afraid most american's view things from a narrow minded perspective such as the one you believe i posted, or to be fair even narrower persective (than my post) i was including the whole united states, they may only be concerned with their tax bracket, or family, or themselves

they just don't like to be reminded of it


in hindisight maybe i should have titled this "what does the average american think of when forecasters predict an active hurricane season" if opinions were taken in a anonymous poll the answers would echo what i said US THREATS

[CrazyC83]

i was just saying it "should be" IMO

i don't see how sighting how it is done currently supports it should not be changed

for instance imagine CNN said

" hurricane forecasters predict a high level of storms will threaten the caribean and mexico as well as the open atlantic, while the U.S will be unscathed, except a couple weak tropical storms"

NOW this is suppose to be taken by the average american, as an active season or inactive season?

c'mon

Yes, because there are only Americans in the Atlantic basin. This is arguably the most closed-minded proposal/idea/thread I've seen in three years on this forum. The NHC has responsibility for all countries in this basin, not just the US. News outlets here will only care about the U.S. because they're American networks. They don't care if it's not happening to us.

An active season is a season with lots of storms or a high ACE. Simple as that.

The news networks put a lot into Hurricane Dean and it never came close to the US...

[Buck]

A narrow-minded perspective, I'd say.

[Coredesat]

Well, it was a general statement. Dean was an exception because it shut down oil rigs, but tropical cyclones not affecting the US don't remain in the news for nearly as long as they do in some other countries.

ok fair enough

but i'm afraid most american's view things from a narrow minded perspective such as the one you believe i posted, or to be fair even narrower persective (than my post) i was including the whole united states, they may only be concerned with their tax bracket, or family, or themselves

they just don't like to be reminded of it

That's another generalization.

[cpdaman]

yes it is a general statement, and does that make it inaccurate (even if you disagree) i said most

it may just be human nature

that is why , in study's ; when polls are done anonymously the results are often alot different than if they were done in the open, when peolple care how they are being viewed and depending on who is viewing (friends?, authority figures, etc)


i understand i should have prefaced the thread with " average american's in anonymous polls would say " an active season (to them) is determined by U.S threats"

[southerngale]

I have a hard time believing the thread creator is serious. It's the Atlantic basin, not the U.S. basin.

[cpdaman]

i understand i should have prefaced the thread with " average american's in anonymous polls would say " an active season (to them) is determined by U.S threats"

[Category 5]

i understand i should have prefaced the thread with " average american's in anonymous polls would say " an active season (to them) is determined by U.S threats"

And exactly what polls are these? Where are you getting this stuff?

[stormcrow]

You denigrate the average American