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#1321 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sat May 03, 2008 10:13 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:It has gotten nice out there! Dewpoints have fallen into the middle 40s and the air temperature is hovering somewhere in the upper 60s to near 70F here in northern Harris county at 10am. You cannot ask for much better weather than this on May 3rd in SE Texas!




A little rain from time to time is actually a good thing. I edited my last post. Maybe Monday, but I'm running the sprinkler today anyway.
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#1322 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sat May 03, 2008 11:19 am

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/fin ... isti%2C+tx

Wunderground Map stations show temperatures of 83-87 F around
corpus christi, it will be hot today.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1323 Postby PTrackerLA » Sat May 03, 2008 2:20 pm

Once again we missed out on most of the heavy rain in my area. Unfortunately it appears that we're now in a moderate drought. This has occured almost every spring since the late 90's it seems, although it's been much much worse than it is now. The GFS doesn't show any real precipitation through next weekend.
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#1324 Postby southerngale » Mon May 05, 2008 12:12 am

We're not in a drought, but it's drier than it's been in a loooong time. At the end of this month will mark the start of 2 very wet years at my location... the last few months being a lot drier though. We could actually use some rain right now, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying the dry weather. We have been able to get so much work done so far this spring... stuff that has been put off forever because it was always too wet on the days we could work on it. I thought I would never get the stuff done outside so we could sell this house, but we finally did and it's going on the market sometime this week! :D
I'm also better prepared for all those deluges when they do come. We bought 2 loads of dirt and have been spreading it in the lower parts of the yard... still have a ways to go, but started in the most crucial areas. We also built up the ground before getting our new sidewalk... no more sloshing or sinking in the mud just to get to the car!

My new house will have an attached garage and a lot of concrete. I will once again fall in love with rainy days. Image
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#1325 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon May 05, 2008 5:55 am

It's pouring here this morning!
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#1326 Postby southerngale » Mon May 05, 2008 9:03 am

Yeah... it looks like my post last night jinxed the rain here. :lol:
Last night when I checked, today was like a 20% or 30% chance of rain. Now it's 80% and they said that might not be high enough. I wonder why they didn't see this coming.

A few snippets from NWS LCH this morning...

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
726 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008

.UPDATE...YET ANOTHER QUICK UPDATE TO FURTHER RAISE POPS AS A
LARGE RAIN SHIELD WITH EMBEDDED THUNDER MOVES INTO THE GOLDEN
TRIANGLE REGION/HARDIN COUNTY OF SE TX. POPS NOW LIKELY OR BETTER
OVER MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA...AND THIS MAY NOT BE HIGH ENOUGH!

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 459 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008/

UPDATE...ISSUED UPDATE TO RAISE POPS BASED ON CURRENT RADAR
TRENDS. HIGHEST POPS NOW 60 PERCENT OVER THE NWRN ZONES.

PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 411 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008/

1ST COURSE OF BUSINESS THIS MORNING IS POPS FOR TODAY AS ONGOING
CONVECTION TO OUR WEST CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. RADAR
TRENDS INDICATE THIS ACTIVITY WILL MOVE INTO THE NWRN ZONES BY
SUNRISE. 00Z KLCH SOUNDING SHOWED PLENTY OF DRY AIR IN PLACE WHICH
COULD BE LEADING TO SOME OF THE DECREASING COVERAGE/INTENSITY WE
ARE SEEING ON REGIONAL 88DS. HOWEVER LIGHT LO-LVL SERLY FLOW WILL
ALLOW THE AIRMASS TO CONTINUE MOISTENING THIS MORNING. DECIDED TO
RAISE POPS TO HIGH CHANCE OVER THE LAKES REGION WITH CHANCE POPS
COVERING ALL BUT THE SERN ZONES AS LINGERING CONVECTION SPREADS
EWD WHILE WEAK VORT ALOFT ALSO INTERACTS WITH THE WARM FRONT
GRADUALLY MOVING INLAND MAINLY OVER THE WRN ZONES.
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#1327 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 9:33 am

What a welcome rain this morning. We needed it really badly - the neighbors' grass was starting to really dry-out. It's about time we had a good soaker! I'm almost to 3" here.

At least it was nice over the weekend - it was perfect weather for the zoo & cooking-out with family in-town. Next weekend looks perfect for the pool!
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#1328 Postby JenBayles » Mon May 05, 2008 9:51 am

FLOOD WATCH
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
945 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008

TXZ163-164-176>179-195>200-210>213-052100-
/O.NEW.KHGX.FF.A.0001.080505T1445Z-080505T2100Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
AUSTIN-BRAZOS-BURLESON-COLORADO-GRIMES-HARRIS-HOUSTON-LIBERTY-
MADISON-MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-TRINITY-WALKER-WALLER-
WASHINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BELLVILLE...BRENHAM...BROOKSHIRE...
BRYAN...CALDWELL...CLEVELAND...COLDSPRING...COLLEGE STATION...
COLUMBUS...CONROE...CORRIGAN...CROCKETT...DAYTON...EAGLE LAKE...
GROVETON...HEMPSTEAD...HOUSTON...HUMBLE...HUNTSVILLE...KATY...
LAKE SOMERVILLE...LIBERTY...LIVINGSTON...MADISONVILLE...
NAVASOTA...ONALASKA...PASADENA...PRAIRIE VIEW...SEALY...
SHEPHERD...THE WOODLANDS...TOMBALL...TRINITY...WEIMAR...WILLIS
945 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008


...FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HOUSTON/GALVESTON HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR A PORTION OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS...INCLUDING
THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES...AUSTIN...BRAZOS...BURLESON...
COLORADO...GRIMES...HARRIS...HOUSTON...LIBERTY...MADISON...
MONTGOMERY...POLK...SAN JACINTO...TRINITY...WALKER...WALLER
AND WASHINGTON.

* UNTIL 4 PM CDT THIS AFTERNOON

* A SURGE OF TROPICAL MOISTURE COUPLED WITH A SERIES OF UPPER
LEVEL DISTURBANCES AND A SLOW MOVING WARM FRONT HAS TRIGGERED
NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THIS MORNING. WIDESPREAD
RAINFALL OF 1 TO 2 INCHES HAS FALLEN WITH A NARROW AXIS OF
HEAVIER RAIN OF 4 TO 6 INCHES. ADDITIONAL SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AHEAD OF THE ADVANCING
WARM FRONT. AN ADDITIONAL 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAIN IS EXPECTED THIS
AFTERNOON...MAINLY ALONG AND NORTH OF I-10. SCATTERED SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED SOUTH OF THIS LINE BUT HEAVY
RAIN IS NOT EXPECTED.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE
ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO
CROSS SAFELY. VEHICLES CAUGHT IN RISING WATER SHOULD BE ABANDONED
QUICKLY. IF YOUR VEHICLE STALLS...ABANDON IT AND SEEK HIGHER
GROUND IMMEDIATELY. RAPIDLY RISING WATER MAY ENGULF YOUR VEHICLE
AND ITS OCCUPANTS AND SWEEP THEM AWAY. MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP THAT LEAD TO
FLASH FLOODING. FLASH FLOODING IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

YOU SHOULD MONITOR LATER FORECASTS AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION
SHOULD FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS BE ISSUED.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1329 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 10:39 am

Sorry these are late - busy morning.

From Jeff Lindner at 6:54 AM:

Very active morning across the N ½ of the area.

Warm front moving northward combining with short wave moving out of Mexico to produce widespread thunderstorms along and N of I-10 this morning. Have already seen 2-3.5 inches of rainfall around CLL with a band of 1-2 inches spreading SE into N Harris County.

Parameters appear to be in place for a possible flash flood event over the northern ½ of SE TX today. Tremendous moisture return overnight has allowed PWS to climb to near 1.7 inches across the region with even deeper moisture poised to move into the area from the SW (PWS near the magic 2.0 in over the Matagorda Bay area). Weak warm front is moving slowly northward across the region….however per surface obs at IAH and CXO is appears the morning convection has laid down a surface outflow boundary that extends roughly from Humble to Greenspoint to Cypress to Brenham. Thunderstorms continue to fire along and north of this boundary and train ENE across the northern areas of SE TX.

Air mass is uncapped for a change and very moist with surface dewpoints approaching 70 and as mentioned above PWS approaching summer levels. Feel the air mass is capable for producing prodigious rainfall amounts in a very short period of time as the air column is nearly saturated and warm rain processes are likely occurring to some degree. Given the training along the boundaries in place coupled with a favorable upwind propagation vector to the NW which aligns nicely with the warm front orientation flash flooding will be possible especially along and NE of a line from Giddings to Hempstead to Humble. Will also need to closely watch ongoing MCS S of Laredo for any boundaries heading NE into our SW counties that may set things off this afternoon…given the lack of capping today.

Rainfall amounts of 2-4 inches are likely NE of the above mentioned line with lesser amounts to the SW of this line. Similar patterns of slow moving/training convection in a very moist air mass have produced some very high totals in the past. Using the PW rule for slow moving or training convection of multiplying the PW value by 2-4 gives rainfall values of 4-8 inches in the band of heavy convection. Luckily while the current band is training is also has some slow NE motion and storms are not feeding into the southern edge of the line. We shall see how this unfolds over the next several hours.

We should see somewhat of a break on Tuesday as the air mass dries a tad…however it remain cap free and the seabreeze/baybreeze may be enough to generate a few afternoon thunderstorms.

Upper trough ejects into the plains late Tuesday and into Wednesday with numerous thunderstorms expected along the W TX dry line. Models continue to point toward MCS formation to our W late Tuesday with some kind of weakening complex approaching our W counties Wed AM. Cap should begin to increase and widespread low clouds should limit heating on Wednesday so for now will go with fairly low rain chances…but these may need to be raised.

After Wed sprawling sub-tropical high builds over the region with summer heat as 850mb temps. climb toward +20-25. Very strong cap will develop and moisture levels will fall by Thursday. Will go ahead of show the first 90 on Thursday and warm the afternoons even more Friday and Saturday into the lower 90’s given 850mb temps. Onshore flow will continue with dewpoints hovering in the 60’s and lower 70’s…this will push heat index values into the low 100’s.


At 8:07 AM:

Very heavy rainfall moving into Harris County.

Band of excessive rainfall continues to train along a line from S of CLL to Hempstead to Spring. Rainfall totals since 400am are approaching 5.0 inches over Waller and Washington counties with 2-3 inches into southern Montgomery County. ALERT station at Spring Creek and FM 2978 recorded 1.12 inches in 12 minutes…suggesting rainfall rates are nearing 4.0 inches per hour under this band.

Storms continue to develop and train along this stalled outflow boundary. An additional 2-3 inches will be possible along this line over the next 1-2 hours.

Flash flooding and ponding may develop as grounds become saturated and rainfall begins to pond and run-off.


At 10:06 AM:

NWS has issued a Flash Flood Watch until 400pm for locations along and N of I-10.

Since 400am 4-6 inches of rainfall has fallen along a line from N of Hempstead to W of The Woodlands with 1-2 inches surroundings this narrow band. In the past 3 hours 5.09 inches of rain has fallen at ALERT station 1070 at Spring Creek and SH 249

Thunderstorms continue to develop and train E along this line and an additional 1-3 inches of rainfall will be possible this afternoon in the watch area.
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#1330 Postby southerngale » Mon May 05, 2008 11:38 am

We were upgraded to 90% - the entire area is covered with light to heavier rain. It's hard to believe how little our chances of rain for today were just last night.



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
1033 AM CDT MON MAY 5 2008

.UPDATE...
AREA RADARS THIS MORNING SHOW AREA OF RAIN AND THUNDERSTORMS
ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS...SLOWLY TRYING TO MOVE EAST. THE EASTERN
EDGE OF THE RAIN IS GRADUALLY ERODING AS IT MOVES INTO A DRIER
AIRMASS OVER SOUTHERN LOUISIANA. HAVE UPDATED POPS/QPF OVER SOUTHEAST
TEXAS BASED ON LATEST TRENDS. HAVE ALSO LOWERED AFTN HIGHS A
BIT...ESPECIALLY ACROSS SE TX WHERE RAIN/CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPS IN
CHECK TODAY. UPDATED ZONES/GRIDS OUT. 2
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#1331 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon May 05, 2008 11:52 am

I'll take the NWS being wrong. I was going to drag the sprinkler back out when I got home today, and now I can leave it alone, probably until next weekend.
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#1332 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 12:23 pm

Wow - I'ver had over 4", the pool is full, and it's pouring here again.

This band really needs to be watched.
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#1333 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 12:28 pm

Storms keep forming over the top of the outflow boundry - the edge of the outflow boundry is near Angleton-Lake Jackson.

Here is a storm total so far:

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#1334 Postby CajunMama » Mon May 05, 2008 12:37 pm

Where's this rain coming from? NWS still has us at 20% chance. Unless it dissaptes more thank 20% of this area is going to get wet.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1335 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 12:54 pm

1-hour rainfall rates:

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#1336 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 12:58 pm

Keeps forming over the same areas:

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#1337 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 1:02 pm

Looking at the satellite - an area of clearing to our SW which will provide additional instability this afternoon. I'm getting concerned about the flooding potential:

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#1338 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 1:52 pm

4.95" here so far...just emptied the rain guage to be safe.

This is the guage I use:
http://www.ambientweather.com/lowcoraga.html

I like their old-style ad on the manufacturers' web site:

http://tru-chekraingauge.com/
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern in place

#1339 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 2:17 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
210 PM CDT MON MAY 5 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LEAGUE CITY HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
EXTREME NORTHERN HARRIS COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS...
SOUTHERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS...


* UNTIL 415 PM CDT

* AT 206 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED
TO SHOW SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT ALONG A NEARLY
STATIONARY BOUNDARY DRAPED ACROSS THE REGION. WIDESPREAD RAINFALL
AMOUNTS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES HAVE OCCURRED IN THIS AREA TODAY...WITH
LOCALIZED AMOUNTS CLOSE TO 8 INCHES. CONTINUED MODERATE TO HEAVY
RAIN WILL RUNOFF TO CAUSE FLOODING OF STREETS AND LOW LYING AREAS.
IN ADDITION...SOME OF THE SMALLER CREEKS IN THE AREA ARE ALSO
RISING. DO NOT DRIVE ACROSS WATER COVERED ROADS!

* LOCATIONS IN THE FLOOD WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
SPLASHTOWN...PORTER...NEW CANEY...HOOKS AIRPORT...WOODLOCH...
WOODBRANCH...TOMBALL...THE WOODLANDS...SPRING...SPLENDORA...
SHENANDOAH...ROMAN FOREST...PORTER HEIGHTS...PINEHURST...PATTON
VILLAGE...OAK RIDGE NORTH...MAGNOLIA...KINGWOOD...CUT AND SHOOT...
CONROE AND CHATEAU WOODS.

PLEASE REPORT SEVERE WEATHER TO THE COUNTY SHERIFF...LOCAL POLICE...
OR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
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#1340 Postby jasons2k » Mon May 05, 2008 2:25 pm

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