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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7321 Postby Clipper96 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:42 pm

Does anyone have a link to a pressure-changes chart for that region?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7322 Postby Scorpion » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:42 pm

cpdaman wrote:i sure don't think that is very likely but who knows i think the "hills" will take a big toll on her tonite thru morning.


I doubt it.. shes not that organized to begin with.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7323 Postby fci » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:42 pm

tgenius wrote:I suspect when I awake tomm morning Miami will be back in cone and the models will shift east again...


Yeah, I espect 5 AM will shift east too.
And if the pattern continues, the 11 AM will go further west as will the 5 PM and then the 11 PM will slide east.

It seems we will finally know the "truth" when it happens!
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7324 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:43 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
cpdaman wrote:not the smartest storm

headed right at the highest peak (3000 feet)

http://www.insmet.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB ... AXw01a.gif


The highest point of Cuba is less than 2000 feet, and it is on the other side of the island.


wrong......no soup for you
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7325 Postby txwatcher91 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:43 pm

cpdaman wrote:i sure don't think that is very likely but who knows i think the "hills" will take a big toll on her tonite thru morning.


Should be over land about 8 hours, and considering the DMAX, improving ULL conditions, it should hold together pretty well IMO. Look for it to be over water again by 7am tomorrow based on current movement.
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#7326 Postby funster » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:44 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:About to hit land, about 5 miles off shore according to Key West radar.


Still has a while before Cuba it seems. Looks to be moving wnw or nw on Key West's long range radar.
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#7327 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:44 pm

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There is one peak of about 1000 m in central Cuba. Everything else is flat land.
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#7328 Postby txwatcher91 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:45 pm

funster wrote:
txwatcher91 wrote:About to hit land, about 5 miles off shore according to Key West radar.


Still has a while before Cuba it seems. Looks to be moving wnw or nw on Key West's long range radar.


Are you looking at the high-res data?

Cross section shows 60K tops! :eek:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7329 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:45 pm

possibly but i would wager a guess that it will be noon before she goes back over water, and that she will hit the key's by late evening and then SW florida by tues morn as a strong tropical storm
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#7330 Postby lbvbl » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:47 pm

Considering not much strengthening has occurred during the time between Hispaniola and Cuba, why do they expect so much strengthening after Fay passes over Cuba? It doesnt really make sense to me considering it passed over quite alot of open water without strengthening...
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#7331 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:47 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

There is one peak of about 1000 m in central Cuba. Everything else is flat land.


it's a 50 x50 mile area of mountainous land, so it's more than just sandy beaches , especially should this small litte LLC decide to try her luck IMO
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#7332 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:48 pm

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This picture is from that area in central Cuba.
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#7333 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:48 pm

New GFS... SFL hit... from the south.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7334 Postby MWatkins » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:49 pm

One note about the elongated circulation (east to west)....there is a chance this is stretched because the low center is trying to follow the deeper convection...which is looking more and more symmetrical by the hour.

If the center jumps over just a little and reforms there...we could still get a strong tropical storm/borderline hurricane before landfall...despite what some mets out there who, incidentially, poo poo every developing system until it's a major hurricane, then they jump on board (see Humberto last year)...want to believe.

Also...looking at the flow around the ULL and Atlantic high...I really expect a shift east in the 0Z guidance.

MW
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7335 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:49 pm

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It has reformed its centeral core with deep 80c convection over its core. I think the winds are now near 50 knots with pressure near 998 millibars.

I expect tonight it will make landfall into Cuba. In which case will destroy its innercore and force it to expand into a broad system yet again. It will take about 24 hours once back over the gulf of Mexico to reform a innercore...In which time it can restrengthen. The question is with the shifts back to the east will it have more then 30 hours over water once it makes it back into the gulf. It seems hard pressed it will be a hurricane. We will see.
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#7336 Postby chris_fit » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:49 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:New GFS... SFL hit... from the south.

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#7337 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:49 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

This picture is from that area in central Cuba.


beautiful pick, i bet that little waterfall is raging right now. hopefully minimal damage there.
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#7338 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:50 pm

lbvbl wrote:Considering not much strengthening has occurred during the time between Hispaniola and Cuba, why do they expect so much strengthening after Fay passes over Cuba? It doesnt really make sense to me considering it passed over quite alot of open water without strengthening...


Development has been inhibited due to high terrain, shear and circulation disputes

Fay faces her final hurdle tonight as she will be rid of these inhibitors so it can strengthen when she goes over the Florida Straits
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7339 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:52 pm

matt i completely agree and just as she was getting her crap together again
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#7340 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:52 pm

chris_fit wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:New GFS... SFL hit... from the south.

Image


Looks to me like Fort Myers...I'm assuming you meant SW Florida, Not SE...

SFT
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