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#7581 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:23 am

Sal Collaziano wrote:Updated... They still think it's going to go that far west? It seems like it's moving NNW now..
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/ ... 28W_sm.gif
They only update the track forecast at 5am, 11am, 5pm and 11pm. Look for possible changes in the next new update.
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#7582 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:23 am

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#7583 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:24 am

For Fay to make the next forecast point, it will need to make a westward turn VERY soon. TS warnings will probably go up for the east and west coasts of Florida at the 5 AM.
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#7584 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:24 am

Then again I don't blame the NHC

Satellites are down at the moment and the RECON plane just arrived

we'll know at 5

I'm going to bed but I'll be back in a couple hours :cheesy:
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#7585 Postby Scorpion » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:24 am

Not sure what the NHC is thinking here.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7586 Postby Category 5 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:24 am

Ground_Zero_92 wrote:
lbvbl wrote:
AJC3 wrote:This time lapse pretty much speaks for itself. The vortex passes right over the radar site, which at most is about the height of Pico San Juan + maybe 100 feet for the tower...so it's looking at 3000-3500 feet up at most.

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is it just me, or does it appear that it has REALLY sped up?


No it's not just you. Lets see what the 2am advisory says. But it looks like Fay woke the heck up and is running to the Florida Straits.


Looks inland and east of the track.
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#7587 Postby lbvbl » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:25 am

Chacor wrote:
Sal Collaziano wrote:Updated... They still think it's going to go that far west? It seems like it's moving NNW now..
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/ ... 28W_sm.gif


Forecast track is never updated at intermediate advisories.


So, is the location that NHC has Fay now the same location NHC predicted for the 11pm track? That could hint to us whether or not the track will shift at 5am.
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#7588 Postby funster » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:25 am

It was still moving nw all along like I said many times earlier.
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#7589 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:25 am

Scorpion wrote:Not sure what the NHC is thinking here.


Theres nothing they can do. The observation stations over central Cuba aren't working, satellite is out, and recon just got there but can't go over land.
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#7590 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:25 am

Yeah, the 2am advisory is highly suspicious. It doesn't even look like Recon found anything significant in the position they placed the center.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7591 Postby cpdaman » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:25 am

AdamFirst wrote:Call me crazy but I don't really trust the NHC advisory right now


it doesn't even match the limited recon date, weird
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#7592 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:26 am

RL3AO wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Not sure what the NHC is thinking here.


Theres nothing they can do. The observation stations over central Cuba aren't working, satellite is out, and recon just got there but can't go over land.


RECON is allowed to go over Cuban airspace right now and satellites will be up soon.
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#7593 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:26 am

lbvbl wrote:oh really, whats causing the speculation?


members here were speculating about that earlier. Don't remember where though.
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#7594 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:27 am

AdamFirst wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Not sure what the NHC is thinking here.


Theres nothing they can do. The observation stations over central Cuba aren't working, satellite is out, and recon just got there but can't go over land.


RECON is allowed to go over Cuban airspace right now and satellites will be up soon.


They can't go in at low levels and they can't do drops over land.
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#7595 Postby Chacor » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:28 am

AdamFirst wrote:
RL3AO wrote:
Scorpion wrote:Not sure what the NHC is thinking here.


Theres nothing they can do. The observation stations over central Cuba aren't working, satellite is out, and recon just got there but can't go over land.


RECON is allowed to go over Cuban airspace right now and satellites will be up soon.


Yes, but to fly over the mountains of Cuba in the dead of night would be suicide.
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#7596 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:29 am

Anyone else notice how recon pressure continues to drop even as the plane heads east and southeast of the 2AM position?

I think that should be a tip off right there that it was probably an inaccurate position.
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#7597 Postby Clipper96 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:29 am

Eyewall reforming now, directly in the center of the landmass.

First outer band should reach the Keys in about an hour, unless it slows down.
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#7598 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:29 am

RL3AO wrote:
They can't go in at low levels and they can't do drops over land.


Oh, wow. Thanks Cuba. :x

And it WAS an inaccurate position.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#7599 Postby cpdaman » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:30 am

who ever is flying the plane should fly to the north side of island and wait another hour or two and they will see fay
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#7600 Postby hiflyer » Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:31 am

Agree...think the NHC is going to do it at the 5...over 2 hrs from now, get all the data, get it right and plenty of time for schools and such to react accordingly. Besides....would guess that they are cranking numbers like crazy such as if radar is right --what and how much is Fay going to blow up or not when it fully hits the straits...let alone which way....or how fast. And if radar is right the mdoels just went "buhbye" for the short term. Those are big money decisions...and their track record is pretty good....better them than me....I just have to worry about gas in the tank and beer in the cooler.
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