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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4241 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:44 pm

I just want to remind people of the hitting eastern cuba and dying talk from this afternoon..hopefuly people will learn to chill out but I doubt it
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4242 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:44 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.

Why so? I was thinking that it was trending East?



It generally has been. I'll bet a twelve pack of adult beverage at any future SETX S2K meetup if the 0Z GFDL has landfall more than one hundred miles either side 89ºW.


Any takers?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4243 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:44 pm

Sanibel wrote:TWC showed the High shifting east as Gus recurves around it in the Gulf.


And that is my question. If Gus moves any slower than the models are now indicating does the ridge slide east even further and Gus turn sooner and more sharply???

Whatcha think Sanibel?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4244 Postby Sabanic » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:45 pm

Annie Oakley wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.


Uhhh Mods-please.....this is ?????


Just someone's thoughts Annie. Not written in stone, and much would have to change to bring them all to S Texas. At least for the time being anyway.
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#4245 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm

extradited wrote:I have a funny feeling that this storm is going to wrap up really nice while I sleep.


I hope you are wrong, but I have a feeling that it could happen. Katrina and Wilma did that.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4246 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.

Why so? I was thinking that it was trending East?



It generally has been. I'll bet a twelve pack of adult beverage at any future SETX S2K meetup if the 0Z GFDL has landfall more than one hundred miles either side 89ºW.


Any takers?

LOL....Come to New Orleans and it's on me! :D
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4247 Postby Shockwave » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm

I'm VERY surprised to see the models actually agree on where Gustav might go. I still fully believe we have to wait til it passes Cuba to have a real clear cut agreement, but seeing this agreement this far out in advance is a good sign on when and who will be affected and it will cut evacuation time down. Lets hope it stays that way, but the intensity of Gustav goes down. Gustav has really shot back up in intensity in the past hour. (I almost typed Fay out on all of this post...I'm still on Fay-lag!)
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4248 Postby LSU2001 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm

Question:
If you look at the new convection and the first tropical forecast point the convection is well south of the point. Is this shear or is movement truly to the southwest or is the LLC exposed and the convection needs to wrap????
Sorry can't figure out how to post the loop
Link: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4249 Postby LowndesCoFire » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:47 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.

Why so? I was thinking that it was trending East?


I thought the models have been trending every so slightly eastward also...
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#4250 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:47 pm

rockyman wrote:Here come the advisories:

outlook valid 01/0000z 26.0n 87.5w
Max wind 95 kt...gusts 115 kt.

Outlook valid 02/0000z 29.0n 89.5w
Max wind 95 kt...gusts 115 kt.



Yep, slowly decreasing the intensity in the Gulf, just like I thought they would do....I'll be interested to read the discussion, should be out in a few, just enough time for me to run to Taco Bell.... :wink:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4251 Postby mattpetre » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:48 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.

Why so? I was thinking that it was trending East?



It generally has been. I'll bet a twelve pack of adult beverage at any future SETX S2K meetup if the 0Z GFDL has landfall more than one hundred miles either side 89ºW.


Any takers?



I'm more than willing to bet that this will wind up Lake Charles, LA or west at this point if you are so dead set on it going eastward.
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#4252 Postby Portastorm » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:48 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
extradited wrote:I have a funny feeling that this storm is going to wrap up really nice while I sleep.


I hope you are wrong, but I have a feeling that it could happen. Katrina and Wilma did that.


Gus has done some wrapping of his own in the last 2 hrs. Impressive bounce-back!
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#4253 Postby rockyman » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:48 pm

Current position and movement:

Tropical storm center located near 18.8n 75.4w at 28/0300z
position accurate within 20 nm

present movement toward the west-southwest or 250 degrees at 7 kt
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4254 Postby paintplaye » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:49 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Wx_Warrior wrote:I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all models were Texas tomorrow. Then Central Texas Friday and South Texas Saturday. One day at a time...I'd rather have the model now than on Monday.

Why so? I was thinking that it was trending East?



It generally has been. I'll bet a twelve pack of adult beverage at any future SETX S2K meetup if the 0Z GFDL has landfall more than one hundred miles either side 89ºW.


Any takers?


I think I will. You weren't really around too much last night when GFDL had a cat 4 hitting Texas... Hmm I wonder why.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4255 Postby AMeyerRN » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:49 pm

11pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4256 Postby mattpetre » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:51 pm

LSU2001 wrote:Question:
If you look at the new convection and the first tropical forecast point the convection is well south of the point. Is this shear or is movement truly to the southwest or is the LLC exposed and the convection needs to wrap????
Sorry can't figure out how to post the loop
Link: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html


I honestly thought a possible Jamaica landfall could come to fruition for quite some time now. With the current motion I wouldn't be completely surprised if it actually went S. of Jamaica at this point. Look for models to trend West by tomorrow as I said earlier.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4257 Postby Frank P » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:52 pm

AMeyerRN wrote:11pm

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looks like a very slight shift west, but not much...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4258 Postby Sabanic » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:52 pm

mattpetre wrote:
LSU2001 wrote:Question:
If you look at the new convection and the first tropical forecast point the convection is well south of the point. Is this shear or is movement truly to the southwest or is the LLC exposed and the convection needs to wrap????
Sorry can't figure out how to post the loop
Link: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html


I honestly thought a possible Jamaica landfall could come to fruition for quite some time now. With the current motion I wouldn't be completely surprised if it actually went S. of Jamaica at this point. Look for models to trend West by tomorrow as I said earlier.


Back and forth, back and forth
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4259 Postby Toadstool » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:52 pm

AMeyerRN wrote:11pm

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Well at least it's reduced from Cat3 to Cat2...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#4260 Postby LowndesCoFire » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:52 pm

AMeyerRN wrote:11pm

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So have days 4-5 really not changed with the past few advisories? NHC seems pretty confident...
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