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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7381 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:12 pm

peteywheatstraw wrote:You're in Baton Rouge, right? Did you happen to catch Scott Oswald on Channel 9 this evening? That's what he said about the high. Watch again at 10.



Will do. Thanks...
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7382 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:13 pm

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#7383 Postby rockyman » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:13 pm

5pm position: 22.1N 82.9W
Current position: 22.7 N 83.4 W

Over past 3 hours--.6N and .5W or just north of NW
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7384 Postby Weather Watcher » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:15 pm

carversteve wrote:We as members and s2k posters need to stop with the doomsday post..It is truly riduculous..they know it's coming!! The only thing we can do is pray and report viable weather information..So please, for the sanity of this board...PLEASE STOP!! So instead of posting a doom and gloom post..Just take a moment to pray!


I aggree!!!

Pray!!!
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav in NW Caribbean Sea

#7385 Postby NFLnut » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:15 pm

otowntiger wrote:If the track is exactly like the NHC has it, i.e. east side of Vermillion Bay heading NW you are right, but the slightest deviation to the right, which is entirely possible and Baton Rouge would get hit harder than Lafayette. The worst it could get for BR would be the 90-100 mph gusts that have already been mentioned. I know that is a lot, but it won't be totally devastating and most structures can withstand that kind of wind. Just get prepared for lots of downed trees, power lines, shingles ripped off, flooding etc. that you would normally expect with this kind of weather. I lived through hurricane Charley here in Orlando and we had 105 mph wind gusts. It was bad and it seemed like our roof could go at any point but we survived and Orlando was up and running within a week or two. Just lots of headaches related to no power and debris removal.



I got whacked HARD by Charley in north Orlando, but DO remember that Charley was a very fast moving storm. From beginning to end of the winds and rain, it lasted 45 minutes. Granted, after 44 years of living with Hurricanes, including Donna in Melbourne when I was little, it was the WORST 45 minutes that I remember, but comparing 45 minutes (as bad as they were) of Charley to potentially hours of 100+ mph winds are VERY different!

This storm could potentially be the WORST natural disaster ever. Let's all pray for everyone who may be affected by Gustav in the next few days and that somehow a miracle occurs and lives are spared!
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7386 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:15 pm

BTW

Position NHC: 22.7N 83.4W
18z GFDL forecast: 22.4N 83.5W

Models trying to keep up to the movement
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#7387 Postby senorpepr » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:15 pm

Okay... enough of the bickering. Back to the storm--now!
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7388 Postby Stephanie » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:16 pm

Hurakan - I wish that they were at least on the western side of the storm. My prayers are with them!
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7389 Postby peteywheatstraw » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:18 pm

The cone of uncertainty is not infallible. 48 hrs before Katrina made landfall it wasn't even in SE La.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7390 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:20 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:18z GFS, ukmet, nogaps, gfdl and hwrf have all shifted east to NO..not good


Thanks for the "good news". I'm sure the
good people of N.O. appreciate reading that.
I still don't understand the excitement some of
you get out this.

He's stating where the models are, how does that represent excitement? People on here have become so cynical over the years we cna't even talk about the damn weather without someone putting words/emotions into someone else's post.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7391 Postby Downdraft » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:20 pm

Look every year we get a major storm and for some reason we've never figured out rationale people get upset when it isn't headed their way. We also get a bunch of kids that think they are smarter than the NHC and start demanding the NHC do what they think based upon their "gut" feelings. Don't get upset with them everyone knows who they are. Keep informed and if you live anywhere in the warning area you shouldn't be on here anywhere you don't have the time.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7392 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:21 pm

peteywheatstraw wrote:The cone of uncertainty is not infallible. 48 hrs before Katrina made landfall it wasn't even in SE La.


You sure about that?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/graphics/AT12/16.AL1205W5.GIF
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7393 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:21 pm

What time do you think it will get over the gulf?

I think within the next 3 hours. I also think it will be below cat4 if current weaking keeps up.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7394 Postby peteywheatstraw » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:22 pm

Point taken.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7395 Postby carversteve » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:23 pm

Can some post a map to show where the center is right now..TY! Or some sort of visual.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7396 Postby senorpepr » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:23 pm

peteywheatstraw wrote:The cone of uncertainty is not infallible. 48 hrs before Katrina made landfall it wasn't even in SE La.


I'm throwing a BS flag here. If you check out advisory number ONE... (about six days out), New Orleans was in the cone.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7397 Postby Shockwave » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:24 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:What time do you think it will get over the gulf?

I think within the next 3 hours. I also think it will be below cat4 if current weaking keeps up.


I agree with the gulf waters time, but not with the weakening. I don't think that area of Cuba will cause it too loose that much intensity.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7398 Postby jinftl » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:24 pm

SE La was absolutely in the cone for katrina 48 hours out...actually SE La was in the cone as early as the Wednesday before....a full 5 days out. The problem is that people focus on the black center line...not the cone.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/KATRINA_graphics.shtml

peteywheatstraw wrote:The cone of uncertainty is not infallible. 48 hrs before Katrina made landfall it wasn't even in SE La.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7399 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:25 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:18z GFS, ukmet, nogaps, gfdl and hwrf have all shifted east to NO..not good


Thanks for the "good news". I'm sure the
good people of N.O. appreciate reading that.
I still don't understand the excitement some of
you get out this.


You do realize your talking about Katrina devastated people right? Talk about a HIGHLY erroneous statement to make...


I assure you no one is excited here...


18Z GFDL is not over New Orleans, it's over Lafayette/Vermilion Bay, right on NHC track. UKMET has been bad all along with Gustav. GFS has been all over the place, too. HWRF has been terrible, but it's not taking Gustav to New Orleans either. Even the generally terrible NOGAPS says Vermilion bay.
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Re: Cat. 4 Hurricane Gustav over Western Cuba

#7400 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:25 pm

carversteve wrote:Can some post a map to show where the center is right now..TY! Or some sort of visual.


Sure I just posted one, here it is again. :)

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