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#701 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:17 pm

Well the GFDL and even the HWRF makes things look possibly bad down the road here in the Panhandle, great!
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#702 Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:18 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Well the GFDL and even the HWRF makes things look possibly bad down the road here in the Panhandle, great!


Nah, it would likely curve into the West Coast ala Donna.
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#703 Postby Cape Verde » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:18 pm

I want to know when the models agree whether or not this storm gets into the Gulf. That completely determines whether I follow this storm intellectually or whether I start getting my judgment clouded by worrying about my personal situation.

I know, there's still plenty of time for that question to be resolved before I change my mental outlook. But I know myself well enough to know that I tend to hang on to every single new post when I think there's a potential personal threat.
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#704 Postby Sabanic » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:21 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:Well the GFDL and even the HWRF makes things look possibly bad down the road here in the Panhandle, great!


Nah, it would likely curve into the West Coast ala Donna.


Only time will tell. Too much time for too many changes to still take place with old Ike.
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#705 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:24 pm

KWT wrote:Wow thats a splitting image of Donna there...


Or the labor day storm of 1935. :eek:
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#706 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:26 pm

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#707 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:26 pm

Anyway a little too soon to put to much faith into the track just yet, the NHC will probably shift a little south next advisory but maybe not by a huge deal who knows?

Scorpion, yep HWRF is a splitting image of Donna it seems... :eek:
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#708 Postby stayawaynow » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:27 pm

What is the thought as to what IKE does after landfall, say in SE FL? Go across and out on the west side or go up the state again like wilma but from the other side? I ask because many people will be thinking about evacuation to Orlando? Is this a feasible thing to do?
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#709 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:31 pm

What completely floors me with the models is that the GFS keeps insisting on a recurve while the Euro pushes the storm into Cuba and the central GOM. How can two very fine operational models be so far off? I'm placing my bets on the tropical dynamical models, GFDL and HWRF - they seem to key in on the building ridge and strength of the storm. Might we see a GOM threat eventually - looking more and more likely with each model run.
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#710 Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:32 pm

stayawaynow wrote:What is the tought as to what IKE does after landfall, say in SE FL? Go across and out on the west side or go up the state again like wilma but from the other side? I ask because many people will be thinking about evacuation to Orlando? Is this a feasible thing to do?


If it takes a track similar to Donna then conditions as bad or worse than Charley could be expected there(basically it would be a bad idea).
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#711 Postby Ixolib » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:33 pm

KWT wrote:Anyway a little too soon to put to much faith into the track just yet, the NHC will probably shift a little south next advisory but maybe not by a huge deal who knows?

Scorpion, yep HWRF is a splitting image of Donna it seems... :eek:


If you're talking about THIS Donna, y'all surely got DAT right!!!

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#712 Postby MiamiensisWx » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:35 pm

Donna struck the Florida Keys WELL northeast of Key West... the center crossed over Long Key and Conch Key, both of which are located NE of Marathon.

Landfall intensity was 115-120 kt/930 mb (as opposed to the HWRF's <908 mb minimum central pressure).
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#713 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:38 pm

Yeah but the overall evolution is still very close...and given we've really not got any decent system to compare Ike to its probably the closest we've got...
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#714 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:40 pm

anyone think the NHC will show a landfall tonight at 11?
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#715 Postby ronjon » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:41 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Donna struck the Florida Keys WELL northeast of Key West... the center crossed over Long Key and Conch Key, both of which are located NE of Marathon.

Landfall intensity was 115-120 kt/930 mb (as opposed to the HWRF's <908 mb minimum central pressure).

Better analog maybe 1935 storm.
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#716 Postby dizzyfish » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:42 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:anyone think the NHC will show a landfall tonight at 11?


Nope. Still way to far out.
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#717 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:45 pm

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#718 Postby LowndesCoFire » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:48 pm

ronjon wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:Donna struck the Florida Keys WELL northeast of Key West... the center crossed over Long Key and Conch Key, both of which are located NE of Marathon.

Landfall intensity was 115-120 kt/930 mb (as opposed to the HWRF's <908 mb minimum central pressure).

Better analog maybe 1935 storm.
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THAAAANNNKKKSSSS! :eek:
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Re: ATL IKE: Models Discussion

#719 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:50 pm

Possible hurricane conditions now mentioned for tuesday on the NWS MIAMI local forecast page
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#720 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:51 pm

While I know it's just a long term prediction that can change, has anyone seen our local METs deltadog03's forecast of Ike that he just posted? Talk about goosebumps and not good ones...

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=103030 :eek:
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