ATL: IKE Discussion

[RL3AO]

Disclaimer: This is unconfirmed.

Some claims that KHOU reported FEMA has taken over cell coverage in the region. I have no idea if that is even possible or how that would work, so if anyone knows anything about that please share.

The military/US Gov't has the tools to shut down cell phone communications. It would be an efficient tool in electronic warfare. Whether what KHOU is saying is true, I'm wouldn't know.

[ronjon]

Ronjon, that estimate is way too low. Do you have the source on that report?

That was from the news conference this afternoon reported on Houston TV.

[HurricaneQueen]

I realize how very, very frustrated everyone who has been affected by Ike are feeling but the finger pointing is reprehensible in my mind. The first responders, FEMA, state and local governments have to be trying to do everything they can to give assistance. Most of them are there because they want to help. Much like any tragedy there is triage in place and they are trying to multi-task as much as possible from everything I have heard. They are being hindered by flooding, impassible roads, lack of electricity, etc. and generally are not working in the best of circumstances. Kudos to all of these people who are doing what they can to help others.

Had people heeded the evacuation warnings much of this would be unnecessary now. Also, when told to evacuate or evacuate in place you are also told to have on hand or bring your supplies with you including enough food and water, medical and baby supplies for at least 72 hours with you. So, rhetorically, why after 36 hours are people up in arms that they don't have food and water? I know there are extenuating circumstances and don't mean to sound hard-hearted, but it is not as if this were a sudden occurrence such as a tornado. It seems as if there were plenty of warnings for those on the barrier islands and in flood prone areas to take the necessary precautions. I also realize that there were areas hit which were far enough inland to not expect the devastation they are experiencing.

That said: God bless all involved-victims and responders alike. This is truly a tragedy.

Lynn

[yzerfan]

KHOU said their pool helicopter would have had to go high enough over the west end because of the emergency craft at lower heights that they would start to have visibility problems that wouldn't let them fly safely there for now.

[artist]

the west end is being showed right now on KHOU

[crazycajuncane]

What really makes me sick is that EVERYONE should have learned from Hurricane Katrina. Everyone was quick to jump on the way that Hurricane Katrina was handled and you think that lessons would have been learned.

It's sad when you see three years later the same set up. FEMA and Gov't fighting and a mayor (Galveston) who seems totally clueless at what really matters.

I just hope that finally after the smoke clears that everyone on the Gulf Coast can learn and REMEMBER the mistakes made.

Back to NFL Football.

[Rod Hagen]

I can't get the KHOU feed so please post updates. None of the cable nets are covering it and the one Houston station I've been watching has been on Brazoria County for the last half hour.

Try http://flhurricane.com/ikecoverage.html

Cheers

Rod

[weunice]

If the are showing the San Luis resort area that is on the east end of the island close to the ferry heading to Bolivar (at least accdg to Google maps)

[lantanatx]

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html
4 houston stations

[shah8]

texas city looks pretty hard hit, more than I thought it was...

[NEXRAD]

A day or two ago someone questioned what types of warnings/advisories would be issued if Ike's remnants did what the GFDL previously indicated (i.e., develop hurricane-force winds in the Great Lakes region).

This afternoon there have been numerous near-hurricane or hurricane-force wind gusts recorded across the Ohio Valley region and as I mentioned would happen, High Wind Warnings would be the warning/advisory of choice.

Eitherway, Ike's remnants are still very impressive and are producing winds comparable to a moderate to strong derecho. Boone County, Kentucky, registered a measured 74-mph gust this afternoon. 60 to 73 mph gusts have also been widespread across parts of Kentucky through Ohio with widespread damage to trees, powerlines, and roofs. Here are some of the more severe reports from NWSFO Paducah, KY:

000
NWUS53 KJKL 142022
LSRJKL

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON KY
422 PM EDT SUN SEP 14 2008

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0345 PM NON-TSTM WND DMG FRENCHBURG 37.95N 83.62W
09/14/2008 MENIFEE KY COUNTY OFFICIAL

SEVERAL TREES DOWN COUNTY WIDE.


&&

$$

BT



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000
NWUS53 KPAH 141958
LSRPAH

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
258 PM CDT SUN SEP 14 2008

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

TREES DOWN

0722 AM NON-TSTM WND GST DONIPHAN 36.62N 90.82W
09/14/2008 E71.00 MPH RIPLEY MO LAW ENFORCEMENT


0800 AM NON-TSTM WND GST PALMA 36.96N 88.38W
09/14/2008 E75.00 MPH MARSHALL KY TRAINED SPOTTER

0800 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG PALMA 36.96N 88.38W
09/14/2008 MARSHALL KY TRAINED SPOTTER

LARGE TREES DOWNED. POWER OUT FROM 630 AM CDT TO 800 AM
CDT. ENTIRE LARGE FRONT PORCH AND ROOF BLOWN OFF
HOME...ALONG WITH SOFFET AND GUTTER DAMAGE.

0805 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG FRUITLAND 37.45N 89.64W
09/14/2008 CAPE GIRARDEAU MO EMERGENCY MNGR

2 ROOFS BLOWN OFF METAL TRAILERS...POWER LINES DOWN ALONG
WITH TREES

0830 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG BARDWELL 36.87N 89.01W
09/14/2008 CARLISLE KY EMERGENCY MNGR

20 HOMES/MOBILE HOMES DESTROYED DUE TO FALLING TREES.
HUNDREDS OF HOMES WITH VARYING DEGREES OF WIND DAMAGE.
POWER OUTAGES COUNTY-WIDE. STATE OF EMERGENCY IN EFFECT
IN COUNTY. REPORT TIME BASED ON TIME OF INITIAL REPORTS
OF DAMAGE. REPORT RELAYED BY CARLISLE COUNTY EMA DIRECTOR
OFFICE.

0849 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG CLINTON 36.67N 88.99W
09/14/2008 HICKMAN KY EMERGENCY MNGR

MANY TREES AND POWERLINES DOWN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY

0900 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG MAYFIELD 36.74N 88.65W
09/14/2008 GRAVES KY TRAINED SPOTTER

5 TOBACCO BARNS KNOCKED DOWN AND BURNED. ROUTES
408...303...849...339...1241 AND 1820 PARTIALLY OR
COMPLETELY BLOCKED DUE TO TREES BETWEEN 9 AND 11 AM.
WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES IN GRAVES COUNTY. TIME OF DAMAGE
BASED ON TIME OF REPORT AND COVERAGE COUNTY-WIDE.

0909 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG WEST PADUCAH 37.08N 88.74W
09/14/2008 MCCRACKEN KY NWS EMPLOYEE

SHINGLES OFF ROOF AT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE
OFFICE IN PADUCAH.

0925 AM NON-TSTM WND GST CALVERT CITY 37.03N 88.35W
09/14/2008 E74.00 MPH MARSHALL KY NWS EMPLOYEE

SHINGLES BLOWN OFF HOUSE

0925 AM NON-TSTM WND GST POSSUM TROT 37.01N 88.43W
09/14/2008 E70.00 MPH MARSHALL KY TRAINED SPOTTER

0940 AM NON-TSTM WND DMG BARDWELL 36.87N 89.01W
09/14/2008 CARLISLE KY EMERGENCY MNGR

MANY TREES AND POWER LINES DOWN. SEVERAL FIRES REPORTED.
DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY

1110 AM NON-TSTM WND GST OWENSBORO 37.76N 87.12W
09/14/2008 M73.00 MPH DAVIESS KY EMERGENCY MNGR

DAMAGE TO MOBILE HOME. NUMEROUS TREES DOWN.

1127 AM NON-TSTM WND GST OWENSBORO 37.76N 87.12W
09/14/2008 M73.00 MPH DAVIESS KY EMERGENCY MNGR

RECORDED AT WEATHER STATION AT COURT HOUSE.

0130 PM NON-TSTM WND DMG EARLINGTON 37.27N 87.52W
09/14/2008 HOPKINS KY TRAINED SPOTTER

ROOF OFF OF FACTORY.


&&

$$

SMITH


- Jay

[CrazyC83]

Wilmington, OH: 55 mph sustained winds reported...

CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
CINC-COVINGTON CLOUDY 76 62 62 SW33G54 29.64R
CINC-LUNKEN NOT AVBL
HAMILTON NOT AVBL
DAYTON CLOUDY 79 62 56 SW41G56 29.45R
WRIGHT-PAT AFB CLOUDY 82 64 54 SW46G63 29.42R
DAYTON GENERAL CLOUDY 79 61 53 SW30G61 N/A
WILMINGTON CLOUDY 81 60 48 SW55G74 29.53R
$$

[CrazyC83]

Update from Duke Energy: 658,000 in the dark

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... GECAROUSEL

Also the Louisville area has over 300,000 without power, according to LG&E: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbc ... 1/80914005

[Skyhawk]

MSNBC just had footage of a naval ship and submarine washed up on shore.

If that's Seawolf Park on Pelican Island that's a permanent display.

[Shockwave]

11 counties in Middle TN have reported some type of wind damage. Bowling Green, KY (South Central KY) had an estimated wind gust of around 50 mph. That's quite impressive from a tropical system this far inland.

[Javlin]

MSNBC just had footage of a naval ship and submarine washed up on shore.

If that's Seawolf Park on Pelican Island that's a permanent display.

That might make sense,I was tring figure how the Navy would get caught with there pants down and then a sub.

[CrazyC83]

11 counties in Middle TN have reported some type of wind damage. Bowling Green, KY (South Central KY) had an estimated wind gust of around 50 mph. That's quite impressive from a tropical system this far inland.

That's nothing compared to farther north and west. Some areas have had sustained winds higher than that and Category 1 wind gusts.

[TampaFl]

FEMA News conferance getting ready to according to KHOU TV:



http://flhurricane.com/ikecoverage.html

[Skyhawk]

Galleria Mall at I610 and Westheimer is open with air conditioning operating. A good place to visit if you live in west Houston and have no power.

[cycloneye]

The Remmants are still blowing.
From 4 PM HPC Advisory.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 35 TO 45 MPH...65 TO 80 KM/HR...WITH
GUSTS OF 60 TO 70 MPH...95 TO 115 KM/HR. THE MINIMUM CENTRAL
PRESSURE WAS 990 MB...OR 29.23 INCHES.