Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean (Is Invest 96L)

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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#41 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:52 am

KUEFC wrote:
gatorcane wrote:There is definitely come cyclonic turning just east of Belize and north of Honduras. I'd expect an invest here over the next 24-48 hours. Steering currents are going to remain weak in this area so if anything forms I wouldn't expect it to move much over the next several days.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-vis.html


You really, really want something to form dont you?


I'm stating an observation and an opinion that is all.
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#42 Postby kpost » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:04 am

KUEFC wrote:
gatorcane wrote:There is definitely come cyclonic turning just east of Belize and north of Honduras. I'd expect an invest here over the next 24-48 hours. Steering currents are going to remain weak in this area so if anything forms I wouldn't expect it to move much over the next several days.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-vis.html


You really, really want something to form dont you?



I do Not know Gatorcane and i am newer here, but these comments are completely useless. i read this forum daily and gatorcane has most always been informative. If you need to trash someone go elsewhere, start with the Gfs since the model seems to "really, really want something to form" too. I checked your post log and you seem to only post to pass criticism on others.
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#43 Postby smw1981 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:07 am

At least the storms have clustered a little bit more this morning (from yesterday morning) - comparing the 2 sat pictures on page 2... maybe something will get going once the area passes over the Yucatan (if they don't die out).
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#44 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:11 am

That's is why we are here KUEFC. I want something to form to. Because it's exciting to watch. I don't want anyone to get flooded or hurt. I've always had a facination for storms. Since I was a kid. Thanks to the internet we all can talk about possible storms forming. :D
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#45 Postby KUEFC » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:03 pm

kpost wrote:
KUEFC wrote:
gatorcane wrote:There is definitely come cyclonic turning just east of Belize and north of Honduras. I'd expect an invest here over the next 24-48 hours. Steering currents are going to remain weak in this area so if anything forms I wouldn't expect it to move much over the next several days.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-vis.html


You really, really want something to form dont you?



I do Not know Gatorcane and i am newer here, but these comments are completely useless. i read this forum daily and gatorcane has most always been informative. If you need to trash someone go elsewhere, start with the Gfs since the model seems to "really, really want something to form" too. I checked your post log and you seem to only post to pass criticism on others.


So i guess Dr Masters is lying when he said " However, the models are showing nothing forming over the next week,"?
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#46 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:11 pm

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12Z: LPS develops in the Gulf of Honduras
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#47 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:17 pm

Someone has had urinated cranky flakes for breakfast...


So i guess Dr Masters is lying when he said " However, the models are showing nothing forming over the next week,"?



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Looks like the GFS sees lowering pressure and low level vorticity drifting into the Southernmost Bay of Campeche. Doesn't mean anything will actually form, but it isn't like there is absolutely no model support.
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#48 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:18 pm

Speaking of Dr. Masters...


Far fewer Cape Verdes-type hurricanes form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands during October, compared to September (Figure 2). Many of those that do form recurve out to sea, and the odds are that hurricane season is over for the Lesser Antilles Islands. Only four October hurricanes have affected these islands since 1851. Hurricane season is also probably over for Texas, which which has only seen three October hurricanes since 1851. Hurricane season is definitely not over for Central America, Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, the U.S. coast from Louisiana to New England, plus Bermuda, the Bahamas, and the islands of the central and western Caribbean.
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#49 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:11 pm

Starting to see a little rotation in the Gulf of Honduras. Convection has been persistent for a couple of days.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#50 Postby El Nino » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:11 pm

Would not be surprised to see code yellow later today or tomorrow ...
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#51 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:15 pm

Blown_away wrote:Starting to see a little rotation in the Gulf of Honduras. Convection has been persistent for a couple of days.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html


Here is another good view of the cyclonic turning, I would be surprised if this does not become an invest

http://metofis.rsmas.miami.edu/~dortt/s ... 1_loop.gif

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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#52 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:45 pm

KUEFC wrote:So i guess Dr Masters is lying when he said " However, the models are showing nothing forming over the next week,"?


No, but Dr. Masters is not the god of weather. Anything can happen in the tropics. You cant always trust your eyes with this kind of science.

Anyways, I do believe this might become our next invest.
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#53 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:11 pm

Let's just say that earlier this season, the NHC was putting code yellow on areas with far less convection and UL support than this area.

I think the NHC may be just as burnt out as we all are with this season :double:

Anyway, this area continues to impress me although expect gradual and slow organization over the next several days...may not be until later this weekend that it has a shot of becoming a depression, if it does.
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#54 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:44 pm

Right now, it's just a bit of a frontal wave down there. But it is a prime region for late-season development. Wind shear is a bit high now, and convection is very disorganized. It's one of two possible areas of formation over the next week or two. The key will be the development of persistent deep convection, as always.

Any development down there would most likely track north or northeast, either across Cuba and the Bahamas or perhaps across the southern FL peninsula. Typical October track.
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#55 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:49 pm

I don't see any models pulling up anything except some moisture and lower pressures. As models go. It could change. It's the season for the Carribean. :roll:
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#56 Postby fci » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:21 pm

Yes, this is the time for us to watch every little cyclonic turn and burned out old fronts down in the Carib.

KUEFC:
Gatorcane is NOT out of line in his observation and either is Lonny.

If you are interpreting Dr. Masters to be calling "season over", believe me, he is not.

We are only a few weeks to a month away from not worrying but now is the time to be very watchful if you live in South Florida. But, Ed can almost safely make his claim that it IS season over for Texas. However, the last time he did..........
:roll:
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#57 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:55 pm

Well,NHC says something about it.

TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT THU OCT 02 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS PRODUCING WIDESPREAD CLOUDINESS AND
SCATTERED SHOWERS OVER MOST OF THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA.
ALTHOUGH SURFACE PRESSURES ARE SLOWLY FALLING IN THE REGION...
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE ONLY MARGINALLY FAVORABLE FOR ANY FURTHER
DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR AS THE SYSTEM MOVES LITTLE OVER THE NEXT FEW
DAYS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER STEWART

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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#58 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:57 pm

:uarrow: Yep, the NHC is starting to think about it a little. If the convection persists I expect "Code Yellow" at the next update.
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#59 Postby Rainband » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:58 pm

fci wrote:Yes, this is the time for us to watch every little cyclonic turn and burned out old fronts down in the Carib.

KUEFC:
Gatorcane is NOT out of line in his observation and either is Lonny.

If you are interpreting Dr. Masters to be calling "season over", believe me, he is not.

We are only a few weeks to a month away from not worrying but now is the time to be very watchful if you live in South Florida. But, Ed can almost safely make his claim that it IS season over for Texas. However, the last time he did..........
:roll:
anywhere in florida this time of year
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Re: Area Of Disturbed Weather In NW Caribbean.

#60 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:01 pm

Definitely a little rotation near 17N/86W. Compared to 24 hours ago this area is slowly getting organized.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-avn.html
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