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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#121 Postby Dionne » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:44 pm

hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.

I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?
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#122 Postby RL3AO » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:47 pm

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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#123 Postby Brent » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:48 pm

-655! Hurry up bell.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#124 Postby Brent » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:57 pm

Rally to -440 now back to -511.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#125 Postby Brent » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:00 pm

Plunging again.

-584 as the bell sounds.

-634... sheesh. Major selloff at the end again.

-659. :roll:
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#126 Postby RL3AO » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:05 pm

Dow 8,609.77 -648.33 -7.00%

Nasdaq 1,645.12 -95.21 -5.47%

S&P 500 912.28 -72.66 -7.38%


S&P and Dow down over 7%
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#127 Postby Brent » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:08 pm

-678.91. Below 8,600.

GM stock down 31%
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#128 Postby feederband » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:08 pm

Bad news I had no money to buy stocks...

Good news I have no stocks...
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#129 Postby RL3AO » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:13 pm

Looks like they settled.


Dow 8,579.19 -678.91 -7.33%

Nasdaq 1,645.12 -95.21 -5.47%

S&P 500 909.94 -75.00 -7.61%
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#130 Postby tomboudreau » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:14 pm

Dionne wrote:hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.

I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?


Let's try most people in the north probably dont have any means of growing year round. Heck, in most of the big cities, I doubt people are able to have gardens because there are buildings everyone. There might be community gardens where everyone can plant and grow stuff. I know in our situation (my wife and mine), the yard is too small to support a garden and have room for the dog to go outside and burn off energy. Oh yeah, 95% of our yard is a hill that doesnt get any sun until late afternoon. We do what we can and move on from there. As its been told to me many times, it is what it is.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#131 Postby Cyclenall » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:17 pm

Dionne wrote:hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.

I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?

Get your gold supply, year(s) food supply, and seeds ready for action.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#132 Postby Dionne » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:26 pm

Cyclenall wrote:
Dionne wrote:hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.

I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?

Get your gold supply, year(s) food supply, and seeds ready for action.



Interesting that this pending financial pitfall is similar to a hurricane. When we wake up every morning the entire scenario has changed. Weather and financial markets never sleep.
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#133 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:17 pm

Just remember that the DJIA is not the economy as a whole.

The economy is not good, but this selloff is almost all irrational fear and not based on much if any logical reasoning. The tough part is gauging the bottom to figure out when to buy more.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#134 Postby CajunMama » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:24 pm

Dionne wrote:hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.
I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?


So you are finding it humorous that hard working people have lost alot of their retirement?
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#135 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:31 pm

CajunMama wrote:
So you are finding it humorous that hard working people have lost alot of their retirement?


In Dionne's defense, I think he's laughing at the arrogant politicians and "fat cats", not the hard working people. He seems to me to be in the latter category like the rest of us.

You can laugh or cry at life. Some of us just choose to laugh.
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#136 Postby CajunMama » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:36 pm

In defense of myself and others who may have taken it my way, what he typed didn't differentiate WHO he was talking about. You choose to take it to mean the "arrogant politicians and fat cats".

And might i add, our retirement took a pretty decent hit.
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Re: Global economic crisis: Worldwide stocks in freefall again

#137 Postby coriolis » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:04 pm

Dionne wrote:hahahahahahahhehehehehe......the voodoo economics have failed!! Exit stage left! This is a really interesting ride.

I spent the day in the garden planting onions and spinach.

Just out of curiousity.....what percentage of us Americans can actually grow enough food to survive?

My guess is in the mid 50% range.....maybe less?

How many S2K folks plant gardens and take harvests? In the event of economic collapse would you be able to survive on your own?

Imagine a clad 25 cent coin being worth more than a paper one dollar bill?


That sounds like you're laughing at people's misfortunes. Maybe you're gloating because you have no investments yourself, or you have some resentment towards the party that's in power, or maybe you have more of a survivalist bent. (Do any of those shoes fit?)

My own investments are meager, and the thought did cross my mind that maybe the fat cats are getting their just desserts. But to voice it in public like that is just rude. This downturn is not going to hurt the real disgusting fat cats that much. It'll be more of an inconvenience. The people who really get hurt are the people of modest means who are ready to retire.

In any case it's never right to laugh at the misfortunes of others no matter how much you think they might deserve it. Seneca said that "what happens to someone can happen to anyone" It might come in a different form, but we are all just a heartbeat from catastrophe, no matter how we plan and prepare. You can spend your life preparing for some disaster and then you can get hit with a different disaster that you didn't prepare for! So my advice is to think twice before you spout off some trash that serves no good purpose.
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#138 Postby Cryomaniac » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:07 pm

gtalum wrote:Just remember that the DJIA is not the economy as a whole.


Maybe not, but it does show that the traders are worried that the economy as a whole is f-ed up...
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#139 Postby george_r_1961 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:43 pm

CajunMama wrote:In defense of myself and others who may have taken it my way, what he typed didn't differentiate WHO he was talking about. You choose to take it to mean the "arrogant politicians and fat cats".

And might i add, our retirement took a pretty decent hit.


My 401k took a major dump and my stocks..well lets just say I lost hundreds. Maybe a drop in the bucket for many people here but not for this middle class guy.

And im not laughing :cry:
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#140 Postby Chacor » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:15 pm

Nikkei 225 starting the day over 10% down.
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