Gaza Conflict

[cycloneye]

U.N. Protests Air Strike at School

GAZA CITY (CNN) -- The Israeli military stepped up its offensive in Gaza Tuesday, surrounding densely populated Gaza City with its ground forces after at least 50 air strikes pounded the region overnight.

An Israeli army artillery battery fires a smoke bomb into the Gaza Strip from its border.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency said Asma Elementary school was clearly marked as a U.N. installation. It said over 400 people had been given shelter at the school when it was hit Monday night.

"Well before the current fighting, UNRWA had given to the Israeli authorities the GPS (global positioning system) co-ordinates of all its installations in Gaza, including Asma Elementary School," the agency said in a news release.

"UNRWA is strongly protesting these killings to the Israeli authorities and is calling for an immediate and impartial investigation," it added.

Read more at link below.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast ... index.html

[Derek Ortt]

if the clowns want shelter, perhaps they should seek UNDERGROUND air raid shelters

Also, the UN should not be operating air raid shelters. That is interfering in a war zone. Hamas should operate their own shelters

[cycloneye]

Updated information about the raid at the school says 30 people haved been killed and 55 were injured,5 in grave condition.

[Derek Ortt]

keep up the pressure Israel. Gaza is starting to collapse. Do not allow international idiocy stop you before the unconditional surrender of Hamas is announced

[Ed Mahmoud]

Terrorists from the Gaza Strip fire mortars from an UNRWA boys’ school in Gaza on 29 Oct. 2007. Hamas and other terror organizations in Gaza make deliberate use of civilians living in populated areas as human shields.

[Derek Ortt]

that is exactly why anything less than UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of Gaza is not acceptable

[Ivanhater]

that is exactly why anything less than UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of Gaza is not acceptable

Do you really think Hamas is simply going to surrender..They are not just a military, political group, it was founded and is run by a sick ideology seeking nothing less than the extinction of Israel. Sadly, the whole reason Hamas was firing rockets into Israel was to get this exact response from Israel, but Israel has the right to go on the offensive to defend itself. The war will continue even after this conflict is over...

[cycloneye]

Below is the Israeli side of the story about what happened in the School.

At least 30 people were reportedly killed and 53 wounded in an explosion in a UN-run school in the town of Jabalya in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Palestinians. The IDF issued a statement saying the school grounds were used by terrorists to fire mortar shells at the troops. According to the IDF, among the dead were members of a Hamas launching cell, including operatives Immad Abu Askar and Hassan Abu Askar.


Troops inside Gaza The infantrymen returned mortar shell fire into the school grounds, the army said. Defense officials told The Associated Press that booby-trapped bombs in the school triggered the secondary explosions which killed scores of Palestinians on the site.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull

[Derek Ortt]

that is exactly why anything less than UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of Gaza is not acceptable

Do you really think Hamas is simply going to surrender..They are not just a military, political group, it was founded and is run by a sick ideology seeking nothing less than the extinction of Israel. Sadly, the whole reason Hamas was firing rockets into Israel was to get this exact response from Israel, but Israel has the right to go on the offensive to defend itself. The war will continue even after this conflict is over...

conduct raids like we did over Belgrade during the Kosovo War and the civilians will be the ones to demand the surrender

[Derek Ortt]

Below is the Israeli side of the story about what happened in the School.

At least 30 people were reportedly killed and 53 wounded in an explosion in a UN-run school in the town of Jabalya in the northern Gaza Strip, according to Palestinians. The IDF issued a statement saying the school grounds were used by terrorists to fire mortar shells at the troops. According to the IDF, among the dead were members of a Hamas launching cell, including operatives Immad Abu Askar and Hassan Abu Askar.


Troops inside Gaza The infantrymen returned mortar shell fire into the school grounds, the army said. Defense officials told The Associated Press that booby-trapped bombs in the school triggered the secondary explosions which killed scores of Palestinians on the site.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull

since Hamas is using these areas for weapons storage, maybe area bombing is the way to go. Just dont give the civilians one second of alert as Hamas will use the time to remove their weapons

[cycloneye]

France and Egypt propose truce

[Ivanhater]

that is exactly why anything less than UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER of Gaza is not acceptable

Do you really think Hamas is simply going to surrender..They are not just a military, political group, it was founded and is run by a sick ideology seeking nothing less than the extinction of Israel. Sadly, the whole reason Hamas was firing rockets into Israel was to get this exact response from Israel, but Israel has the right to go on the offensive to defend itself. The war will continue even after this conflict is over...

conduct raids like we did over Belgrade during the Kosovo War and the civilians will be the ones to demand the surrender

I think in this case, like that of Hitlers Luftwaffe bombing British civilians, will have the opposite effect and turn the Palestinian people even more against Israel. Of course I dont want to see any innocent civilians hurt on either side, but I find it odd that you dont hear a peep from nations like France and others when Israel is getting bombarded and actually refrains from action for a long time, but when Israel tries to defend herself, France is falling all over itself to " stop asap".

[vbhoutex]

Would you expect anything different from France????

[Ivanhater]

:uarrow: Would you expect anything different from France????

Very True David. I guess in this case, all that can be said is C'est la vie

[cycloneye]

Israelis halts fireing briefly and allows aid into Gaza.

U.N. says,no Hamas around School.

Tuesday was the bloodiest day of the Israeli ground offensive to date, when Israeli shelling struck a U.N. school in northern Gaza that was being used as a shelter by hundreds of civilians.

The Israeli military said Hamas militants were firing mortars from the school, prompting an artillery strike that killed at least 40 people and wounded dozens more. U.N. officials said there were no militants at the school. 'No safe haven' in Gaza, U.N. official says »

"We are 99.9 percent certain that there were no militants. There were no militant activities in the school or in the school compound," said Chris Gunness of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast ... index.html

[Derek Ortt]

we should believe the same UN that was involved in the oil for food scandal? The same UN that never condemns Hamas?

PLEASE!

[cycloneye]

Fighting resumes after brief halt

GAZA CITY, Gaza – Israeli airstrikes and Hamas rockets resumed after a brief pause Wednesday to allow food and fuel to reach Palestinian civilians in Gaza, where an Israeli warplane dropped leaflets urging some residents to flee because of imminent attacks.

Even as the Israeli government tentatively welcomed a cease-fire proposal from Egypt and France, its military was instructed to continue its assault on Hamas.

The proposal could mark the first sign of a possible exit from 12 days of bloodshed in Gaza. But Israel says it needs guarantees that any cease-fire will halt rocket fire and prevent Hamas from rearming, while Hamas demands that Gaza's blockaded border crossings be opened.

Israeli strikes in response to continued Hamas rocket fire on southern Israel have killed at least 688 Palestinians since Dec. 27, including around 350 civilians, among them 130 children, according to Palestinian officials.

Israel says it has killed at least 130 Gaza militants since it launched its ground offensive Saturday. Ten Israelis have been killed since the fighting began, including three civilians.

On Wednesday, 29 Palestinians were killed, including at least 22 civilians and two Islamic Jihad militants, medics said. In one incident, a family of four was killed in an airstrike on their car, medics said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_ ... lestinians

[Derek Ortt]

I think in this case, like that of Hitlers Luftwaffe bombing British civilians, will have the opposite effect and turn the Palestinian people even more against Israel. Of course I dont want to see any innocent civilians hurt on either side, but I find it odd that you dont hear a peep from nations like France and others when Israel is getting bombarded and actually refrains from action for a long time, but when Israel tries to defend herself, France is falling all over itself to " stop asap".

France is whining because they cannot stand other nations actually winning the war. Afterall, they performed WORSE than Poland in the second World War and have yet to come to grips with the fact that they LOST!

As for the civilians, many of them seem to just want the hostilities to end. I may be wrong, but the British wanted victory (that, and it was the RAF that attacked Berlin multiple times that resulted in the Luftwaffe bombing London... a great tactic as it focused attention away from the British airfields)

[Derek Ortt]

I also fully DISAGREE with letting in humanitarian aid

Israel said this is all out war. During this time when civilian aid comes in... Hamas also gets the food and water. They can also smuggle in weapons. This makes zero military sense and Israel should pay no attention to international pressure... as it does not have their best interests in mind

[Ed Mahmoud]

Arab protestor in Florida calls for Jews to go "back to the oven" during protest over Gaza.


BTW, I feel bad for any innocent children who die because Hamas cowards fight from schools and hospitals.


But remember, Palestinians celebrated the 9-11 attacks on New York and Washington.