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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Interesting. Just looked at yesterday's record highs. Mid 90s in the northeast.
Saint Petersburg (along the water/Bay) at my house was 10 degrees
COLDER.
June is the wildest month. During some days in June, northeast cities
will reach 110, with me staying at 85. That's 25 degrees COOLER.
THANK GOODNESS FOR THE WATER!!!! Well, the water
is beautiful so long as no hurricane traverses it.
Saint Petersburg (along the water/Bay) at my house was 10 degrees
COLDER.
June is the wildest month. During some days in June, northeast cities
will reach 110, with me staying at 85. That's 25 degrees COOLER.
THANK GOODNESS FOR THE WATER!!!! Well, the water
is beautiful so long as no hurricane traverses it.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
The low temperatures the past few days even the playing field....today's high in Scranton was 93 but the low last night was 60. By comparison, Tampa was 'cooler' at 89 today but the low last night was 65. Miami was even 'cooler' with a high of 83 today..but the low last night was 73.
Once summetime humidity kicks in, the northeast can definitely have days with hotter highs and comparable low temps to florida locations....but they are usually short-lived in duration.
I totally agree...ocean temps are the giveaway to where you are on hot summer days in the northeast vs florida. Growing up in boston, there is no worse shock to the system like baking on a beach with temps in the 90s and putting your toe in the ocean which is 62 deg!
Once summetime humidity kicks in, the northeast can definitely have days with hotter highs and comparable low temps to florida locations....but they are usually short-lived in duration.
I totally agree...ocean temps are the giveaway to where you are on hot summer days in the northeast vs florida. Growing up in boston, there is no worse shock to the system like baking on a beach with temps in the 90s and putting your toe in the ocean which is 62 deg!
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Interesting. Just looked at yesterday's record highs. Mid 90s in the northeast.
Saint Petersburg (along the water/Bay) at my house was 10 degrees
COLDER.
June is the wildest month. During some days in June, northeast cities
will reach 110, with me staying at 85. That's 25 degrees COOLER.
THANK GOODNESS FOR THE WATER!!!! Well, the water
is beautiful so long as no hurricane traverses it.
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Your 110F number is much too high and no places even inland in FL reach that during the peak of summer (if you mean heat index though then yes). There certainly is a temperature difference closer to the bay, but that is true just about anywhere in FL along the coast who enjoys its own unique climate.
During the peak of summer in the Tampa Bay area when Bay and GOM SSTs reach around 86-88F (due to the shallow water in the Bay and off Pinellas County), typical highs along the coastal section of the county are only about 5F, maybe 7F cooler than inland. Typical highs for downtown St. Petersburg on the bay are about 88-90F with about 93-95F well inland.
So the changes you are seeing are certainly less dramatic during the summer and more so during May especially as SSTs have yet caught up to the warm airmass.
During the peak of summer in the Tampa Bay area when Bay and GOM SSTs reach around 86-88F (due to the shallow water in the Bay and off Pinellas County), typical highs along the coastal section of the county are only about 5F, maybe 7F cooler than inland. Typical highs for downtown St. Petersburg on the bay are about 88-90F with about 93-95F well inland.
So the changes you are seeing are certainly less dramatic during the summer and more so during May especially as SSTs have yet caught up to the warm airmass.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
gatorcane wrote:Your 110F number is much too high and no places even inland in FL reach that during the peak of summer (if you mean heat index though then yes). There certainly is a temperature difference closer to the bay, but that is true just about anywhere in FL along the coast who enjoys its own unique climate.
During the peak of summer in the Tampa Bay area when Bay and GOM SSTs reach around 86-88F (due to the shallow water in the Bay and off Pinellas County), typical highs along the coastal section of the county are only about 5F, maybe 7F cooler than inland. Typical highs for downtown St. Petersburg on the bay are about 88-90F with about 93-95F well inland.
So the changes you are seeing are certainly less dramatic during the summer and more so during May especially as SSTs have yet caught up to the warm airmass.
I meant the Northeast US getting to 110...like Virginia/interior NE not FL.
I meant to say we are sometimes 25 degrees COOLER than the Northeast US,
not any part of Florida...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001416.html
Note that Delaware/Maryland have 109-110 record highs.
Washington's highest was in 1930-- 106*F...
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
101* - maybe 103* is about as hot as it gets up there in the NE. But it can be cooler and breezier here in the summer which is counterintuitive.
Porch shade temperature was 86* while the car thermometer said 99* while on the road today.
Porch shade temperature was 86* while the car thermometer said 99* while on the road today.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
April forecast to end on the dry side across south florida. Excerpt from NWS Miami Discussion this pm:
THE WEATHER WILL ALSO REMAIN DRY OVER MOST OF THE CWA TONIGHT
THROUGH FRIDAY...EXCEPT FOR THE EAST COAST METRO AREAS WHERE ONE
OR TWO LIGHT SHOWERS COULD WORK INTO THE AREA FROM THE ATLANTIC
WATERS BEFORE DISSIPATING. SO WILL KEEP THE CWA DRY TONIGHT
THROUGH FRIDAY...EXCEPT FOR THE EAST COAST METRO AREAS WHERE THERE
WILL BE A 10 PERCENT CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME SMOKE OVER THE WEST COAST METRO AREAS AND
THE INLAND AREAS OF COLLIER COUNTY FROM THE WILDFIRE NEAR I-75 AND
STATE ROAD 29. SO WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION AREAS OF SMOKE FOR THE
WESTERN AND INLAND COLLIER COUNTY THROUGH AT LEAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
.EXTENDED FORECAST...
THE HIGH WILL START TO MOVE EAST THIS WEEKEND FURTHER INTO THE
ATLANTIC WATERS...BUT THE MID TO UPPER LEVEL HIGH ASSOCIATED WITH
THE SURFACE HIGH WILL WORK BACK WEST AND OVER OUR CWA. THIS WILL
STILL KEEP THE DRY AIR OVER US ALONG WITH SURFACE EASTERLY WINDS.
SO HAVE REMOVE THE POPS OVER SOUTH FLORIDA FOR THIS WEEKEND.
April month-to-date stats:
Miami
Avg. Temp: 76.9 deg (+1.4 from normal)
Rainfall: 1.11" (-1.99" from normal)
Fort Lauderdale
Avg. Temp: 77.3 deg (+3.3 from normal)
Rainfall: 0.66" (-2.95" from normal)
Naples
Avg. Temp: 74.1 deg (+1.8 from normal)
Rainfall: 0.71" (-1.12" from normal)
THE WEATHER WILL ALSO REMAIN DRY OVER MOST OF THE CWA TONIGHT
THROUGH FRIDAY...EXCEPT FOR THE EAST COAST METRO AREAS WHERE ONE
OR TWO LIGHT SHOWERS COULD WORK INTO THE AREA FROM THE ATLANTIC
WATERS BEFORE DISSIPATING. SO WILL KEEP THE CWA DRY TONIGHT
THROUGH FRIDAY...EXCEPT FOR THE EAST COAST METRO AREAS WHERE THERE
WILL BE A 10 PERCENT CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME SMOKE OVER THE WEST COAST METRO AREAS AND
THE INLAND AREAS OF COLLIER COUNTY FROM THE WILDFIRE NEAR I-75 AND
STATE ROAD 29. SO WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION AREAS OF SMOKE FOR THE
WESTERN AND INLAND COLLIER COUNTY THROUGH AT LEAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
.EXTENDED FORECAST...
THE HIGH WILL START TO MOVE EAST THIS WEEKEND FURTHER INTO THE
ATLANTIC WATERS...BUT THE MID TO UPPER LEVEL HIGH ASSOCIATED WITH
THE SURFACE HIGH WILL WORK BACK WEST AND OVER OUR CWA. THIS WILL
STILL KEEP THE DRY AIR OVER US ALONG WITH SURFACE EASTERLY WINDS.
SO HAVE REMOVE THE POPS OVER SOUTH FLORIDA FOR THIS WEEKEND.
April month-to-date stats:
Miami
Avg. Temp: 76.9 deg (+1.4 from normal)
Rainfall: 1.11" (-1.99" from normal)
Fort Lauderdale
Avg. Temp: 77.3 deg (+3.3 from normal)
Rainfall: 0.66" (-2.95" from normal)
Naples
Avg. Temp: 74.1 deg (+1.8 from normal)
Rainfall: 0.71" (-1.12" from normal)
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Sanibel wrote:101* - maybe 103* is about as hot as it gets up there in the NE. But it can be cooler and breezier here in the summer which is counterintuitive.
Porch shade temperature was 86* while the car thermometer said 99* while on the road today.
That is true. I was just referring to the all time record highs up in the northeast that were near
110...granted that was in the 1930s during a severe heat wave...so it is not typical...but
it is interesting...
About 86*F at my house today....cumulus clouds starting to appear with
greater frequency, but no where near enough for rain.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Sun getting noticeably hotter now. Tropical humidity should be around in about 3 weeks.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Oh well, I do not know why did I even thought about looking at the gfs a few days ago giving the false hopes of the possibility of afternoon thunderstorms to start developing by the end of this week into the weekend, while the euro was keeping us dry through this time.
Maybe a slight chance for rain for some of you in S Fl or extreme northern FL this weekend, before the ridge strengthens up once again by mid next week across the entire SE US into FL.

Maybe a slight chance for rain for some of you in S Fl or extreme northern FL this weekend, before the ridge strengthens up once again by mid next week across the entire SE US into FL.

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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
April 28, 2009 U.S. Drought Monitor ...excerpt on Floida...
Florida’s peninsula continued to suffer through an unusually dry cool season, resulting in additional expansion of severe to extreme drought (D2 to D3). Through April 28, dry-season precipitation (since November 1, 2008) totaled just 2.31 inches (20% of normal) in Naples and 4.74 inches (25%) in Fort Lauderdale. The Deep fire near Miles City, Florida, 30% contained by April 28, charred at least 24,000 acres of vegetation and resulted in closures of I-75 (Alligator Alley) across the Everglades.

http://drought.unl.edu/DM/MONITOR.html
Florida’s peninsula continued to suffer through an unusually dry cool season, resulting in additional expansion of severe to extreme drought (D2 to D3). Through April 28, dry-season precipitation (since November 1, 2008) totaled just 2.31 inches (20% of normal) in Naples and 4.74 inches (25%) in Fort Lauderdale. The Deep fire near Miles City, Florida, 30% contained by April 28, charred at least 24,000 acres of vegetation and resulted in closures of I-75 (Alligator Alley) across the Everglades.

http://drought.unl.edu/DM/MONITOR.html
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
We had the first flicker of a rainy season pattern yesterday with a 5 minute shower from daytime convection off the mainland. The wind is ESE in the wet season pattern around the Bermuda High. More clouds today over the mainland. 83*
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Easy to spot where the west coast sea breeze met the predominant easterly flow...line of clouds up and down spine of west-central peninsula. Air to the east of that line is way to dry and stable to support even much in the way of clouds.

Little/no rain in the next several days per NWS Miami...starting the first week of May out on a very dry note. We are going to start the first week of May on a very dry note and really start to add to the already huge rainfall deficits....average monthly almost doubles in Miami from 3.14" in April to 5.92" in May. The half foot of rain Miami averages in May equates to almost .20"/day!
Lushine May on tap?
From NWS Miami Discussion this pm:
AT THE SAME TIME...THE
SHORT RANGE MODELS NOW KEEP THE WEAK MID TO UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NORTH
OF THE AREA AS IT PASSES TO THE EAST AND BUILDS THE MID TO UPPER
LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CWA. THIS WILL KEEP THE EAST TO SOUTHEAST
WINDS GOING OVER THE CWA FRIDAY INTO THIS WEEKEND...BUT THE
PWAT VALUES WILL BE LESS THAN AN INCH OVER ALL OF THE CWA. SO WILL
REMOVE THE SLIGHT CHANCE OF POPS FOR THE ALL OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY
INTO THIS WEEKEND.
.EXTENDED FORECAST...
THE MID TO UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL THEN BREAK DOWN EARLY NEXT
WEEK OVER THE CWA...AS THE SURFACE HIGH WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY
MOVE EAST FURTHER INTO THE ATLANTIC WATERS. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR
THE WINDS TO BECOME MORE SOUTHEAST BY MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK ALLOWING
FOR SOME LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TO WORK INTO THE AREA. SO WILL KEEP
EARLY NEXT WEEK DRY...BEFORE BRINGING BACK A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
SHOWERS TO SOUTH FLORIDA FOR MIDDLE TO END OF NEXT WEEK.

Little/no rain in the next several days per NWS Miami...starting the first week of May out on a very dry note. We are going to start the first week of May on a very dry note and really start to add to the already huge rainfall deficits....average monthly almost doubles in Miami from 3.14" in April to 5.92" in May. The half foot of rain Miami averages in May equates to almost .20"/day!
Lushine May on tap?
From NWS Miami Discussion this pm:
AT THE SAME TIME...THE
SHORT RANGE MODELS NOW KEEP THE WEAK MID TO UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NORTH
OF THE AREA AS IT PASSES TO THE EAST AND BUILDS THE MID TO UPPER
LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CWA. THIS WILL KEEP THE EAST TO SOUTHEAST
WINDS GOING OVER THE CWA FRIDAY INTO THIS WEEKEND...BUT THE
PWAT VALUES WILL BE LESS THAN AN INCH OVER ALL OF THE CWA. SO WILL
REMOVE THE SLIGHT CHANCE OF POPS FOR THE ALL OF THE CWA FOR FRIDAY
INTO THIS WEEKEND.
.EXTENDED FORECAST...
THE MID TO UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL THEN BREAK DOWN EARLY NEXT
WEEK OVER THE CWA...AS THE SURFACE HIGH WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY
MOVE EAST FURTHER INTO THE ATLANTIC WATERS. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR
THE WINDS TO BECOME MORE SOUTHEAST BY MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK ALLOWING
FOR SOME LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TO WORK INTO THE AREA. SO WILL KEEP
EARLY NEXT WEEK DRY...BEFORE BRINGING BACK A SLIGHT CHANCE OF
SHOWERS TO SOUTH FLORIDA FOR MIDDLE TO END OF NEXT WEEK.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Sea breeze convergence line gave us a heavy cell that rained for a half hour last night just over us and nowhere else. 1/2 inch. Dry grass really breathed a sigh of relief.
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Re: Florida Weather Thread:warming, have/have nots in rain conti
Sanibel wrote:Sea breeze convergence line gave us a heavy cell that rained for a half hour last night just over us and nowhere else. 1/2 inch. Dry grass really breathed a sigh of relief.
Lucky!
Line of moisture and caribbean moisture plume moving north across
south florida...this moisture should enhance seabreeze showers
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-rb.html
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