ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ERIKA (06L)

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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2061 Postby ronjon » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:16 am

Let's all wait for recon to know for sure - the weaker it stays the more west it'll move - perhaps even south of the islands in the caribbean. The latest tropical models (GFDL and HWRF) develop 94L into a hurricane and the ECM global develops it too. Looks like a recurve according to ECM, however, there is building high pressure moving down from New England which may complicate the track late in the forecast period.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2062 Postby tpr1967 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:18 am

Try more like 16.7 57.0. That best agrees with an extrapolated track of best tracks 1145 position of 16.4 56.6.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2063 Postby x-y-no » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:18 am

tolakram wrote:There is a circulation feature at 18, 56. You can see it on both loops.

I have no idea if it's an llc forming, or just another swirl, but I see it.


I see east winds throughout that area ...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2064 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:19 am

I don't think that's an LLC forming up by 18N. My eye is drawn toward about 16.7N/57W on the high-res loops. Generally, if you have to hunt for an LLC with no convection obscuring it, then it isn't there.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2065 Postby Sanibel » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:19 am

Direction looks like only 275 degrees. Practically west.


If it bursts again tonight it still has something.


Might crash on the islands.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2066 Postby SapphireSea » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:20 am

tolakram wrote:There is a circulation feature at 18, 56. You can see it on both loops.

I have no idea if it's an llc forming, or just another swirl, but I see it.


That's probobly more of a MLC that is trying to get down into the surface, but its elongated and not complete. It will weaken with the outflow from the convection.
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#2067 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:21 am

I am seeing something near the position stated above. However, I am having trouble closing it off. Having a hard time seeing the NE winds

looks about as organized as Danny
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L - RECON

#2068 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:21 am

Here is the latest plan of the day with the future missions for 94L / TD / Erika whatever it is :)

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1030 AM EDT TUE 01 SEPTEMBER 2009
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 02/1100Z TO 03/1100Z SEPTEMBER 2009
TCPOD NUMBER.....09-095

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (NEAR THE LESSER ANTILLES)
FLIGHT ONE - TEAL 77
A. 02/1800Z, 03/0000Z
B. AFXXX 0306A CYCLONE
C. 02/1630Z
D. 17.8N 60.7W
E. 02/1730Z TO 02/2355Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

FLIGHT TWO - TEAL 75
A. 03/0600Z, 1200Z
B. AFXXX 0406A CYCLONE
C. 03/0445Z
D. 18.5N 62.2W
E. 03/0530Z TO 03/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES
THROUGH AT LEAST 04/0000Z.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2069 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:23 am

Loop: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... _floater_2

I would say, as an amateur, looking better than before but still not good.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2070 Postby Air Force Met » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:24 am

wxman57 wrote:I don't think that's an LLC forming up by 18N. My eye is drawn toward about 16.7N/57W on the high-res loops. Generally, if you have to hunt for an LLC with no convection obscuring it, then it isn't there.


16.7/57 is about where I see it. I see some eastward moving clouds in the hi-res...but these look like they are at about 2-4K feet. Who knows what is going on at the sfc...but probably not all the way down...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2071 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:25 am

looks like that shear hasnt panned out as thought. Im going to go against the grain here. If it looks good, walks good, and talks good. Its in good shape. IMO appears to be developing
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#2072 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:26 am

I would concur with the folks talking about the 16.5-ish/57 area. Seems to be trying to get together a more well-defined, yet obviously exposed, LLC there. We'll have to see if that area can start spitting out some convection or if it all continues to get sheared off to the E.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2073 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:27 am

Air Force Met wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I don't think that's an LLC forming up by 18N. My eye is drawn toward about 16.7N/57W on the high-res loops. Generally, if you have to hunt for an LLC with no convection obscuring it, then it isn't there.


16.7/57 is about where I see it. I see some eastward moving clouds in the hi-res...but these look like they are at about 2-4K feet. Who knows what is going on at the sfc...but probably not all the way down...


Recon will tell the truth guys. :)
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2074 Postby Sanibel » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:27 am

Beautiful upper outflow - which probably explains last night's IR presentation. The shear and anti-cyclone aloft managed to get the best out of a weak feature:



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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L - Computer Models

#2075 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:28 am

Geez,

Come on guys. If yall are arguing over this wait until a front stalls in the GOM next week.
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#2076 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:31 am

Ok im going to cry.. lol .. no upgrade.. i go to sleep at a point where it was likely to be upgaded and i wake up and nope.. even though we have a system worthy of upgrad.. oh well.. lol
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2077 Postby knotimpaired » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:32 am

Luis, is recon still set for 1? Also have they moved the hunters down to St Croix or are they coming out of the states?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 94L

#2078 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:34 am

knotimpaired wrote:Luis, is recon still set for 1? Also have they moved the hunters down to St Croix or are they coming out of the states?


Yes,plane departs at noon EDT from ST Croix.
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#2079 Postby Gustywind » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:35 am

Meteo-France has just issued an yellow alert for the Northern Leewards at 11am...
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#2080 Postby Gustywind » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:36 am

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