WPAC : TROPICAL DEPRESSION MIRINAE (23W)

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#661 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:57 am

StormingB81 wrote:So I guess a recurve is now definately out of the question then huh


I am no expert on these matters, but based on the data, models, and analysis... well, you could perish the thought and forget that scenario.

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#662 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:58 am

StormingB81 wrote:So I guess a recurve is now definately out of the question then huh


Unfortunately, yes...... :(
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#663 Postby dhoeze » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:58 am

I think, government is now ready for this storm, problem is our drainage,floodways,rivers and lakes are not.
They are still in critical level. Every inch of additional rainfall would cause flooding. Our lands here Metro
Manila are still still saturated in water.

I agree with you sir. Prepare for the worse.
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#664 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:00 am

StormingB81 wrote:So I guess a recurve is now definately out of the question then huh


i guess. but let's just say that there's a low chance for that. possible track for mirinae is from quezon up to aurora-isabela area. if you take a look at the weather maps, there is a strong ridge keeping mirinae from traveling to the west or even a more wsw track.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#665 Postby metenthusiast » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:01 am

If that STR over China and Taiwan strengthens even more, this track model would seem more probable

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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#666 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:02 am

metenthusiast wrote:If that STR over China and Taiwan strengthens even more, this track model would seem more probable

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This is actually what I'm expecting.......worst case scenario........
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#667 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:06 am

oaba09 wrote:
metenthusiast wrote:If that STR over China and Taiwan strengthens even more, this track model would seem more probable

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This is actually what I'm expecting.......worst case scenario........


it seems that the STR over china continues to strengthen as the day passes by. it appears to be more zonal at this moment compared to the last couple of days.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#668 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:19 am

Track History
Synoptic Time -Latitude -Longitude -Intensity
200910280600 16.2 136.9 85
200910280000 16.2 138.5 75

200910271800 15.9 140.2 65
200910271200 15.6 142.2 45
200910270600 14.8 143.7 40
200910270000 14.1 145.4 35
200910261800 13.6 146.9 35
200910261200 13.2 148.4 35
200910260600 12.7 149.9 30
200910260000 12.2 151.3 25

Look at the 2 latest track....It's not gaining latitude anymore
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#669 Postby dhoeze » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:19 am

drdavisjr wrote:
oaba09 wrote:Looks similar w/ JTWC now.........At least now we have a clearer picture


OK...maybe a little better for Metro Manila.


Guys,

Right now, what is the probability of the Model by AFWI to happen?
Will the ridge be have that much of a strength?


Thanks.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#670 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:22 am

dhoeze wrote:
drdavisjr wrote:
oaba09 wrote:Looks similar w/ JTWC now.........At least now we have a clearer picture


OK...maybe a little better for Metro Manila.


Guys,

Right now, what is the probability of the Model by AFWI to happen?
Will the ridge be have that much of a strength?


Thanks.


It's a big possibility.........In my personal opinion, it seems like the STR is strong enough to "push" the system south of the forecast track
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#671 Postby dhoeze » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:22 am

drdavisjr wrote:Image

Latest computer models...JTWC in black.


Guys,

Right now, what is the probability of the Model by AFWI to happen?
Will the ridge be have that much of a strength?


Thanks.
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#672 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:28 am

dhoeze wrote:
drdavisjr wrote:Image

Latest computer models...JTWC in black.


Guys,

Right now, what is the probability of the Model by AFWI to happen?
Will the ridge be have that much of a strength?


Thanks.


It's 1 of the 2 possibilities so...I'd say it's quite high...........
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#673 Postby P.K. » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:41 am

75kts.

WTPQ21 RJTD 280600
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 0921 MIRINAE (0921)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 280600UTC 16.2N 137.0E GOOD
MOVE W 14KT
PRES 960HPA
MXWD 075KT
GUST 105KT
50KT 70NM
30KT 180NM
FORECAST
24HF 290600UTC 16.0N 131.9E 75NM 70%
MOVE W 12KT
PRES 945HPA
MXWD 080KT
GUST 115KT
48HF 300600UTC 16.4N 127.0E 140NM 70%
MOVE W 12KT
PRES 935HPA
MXWD 085KT
GUST 120KT
72HF 310600UTC 16.3N 122.8E 210NM 70%
MOVE W 11KT
PRES 935HPA
MXWD 085KT
GUST 120KT =
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#674 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:12 am

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#675 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:41 am

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WTPN32 PGTW 280900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TYPHOON 23W (MIRINAE) WARNING NR 010
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
WARNING POSITION:
280600Z --- NEAR 16.2N 136.9E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 15 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 040 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
100 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 16.2N 136.9E
---
FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
281800Z --- 16.5N 133.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 275 DEG/ 15 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
290600Z --- 16.7N 130.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 100 KT, GUSTS 125 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 105 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 12 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
291800Z --- 16.7N 128.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
120 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
300600Z --- 16.7N 125.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
105 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
120 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 09 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
310600Z --- 16.7N 121.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
125 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
010600Z --- 16.4N 117.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 080 KT, GUSTS 100 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
020600Z --- 16.2N 113.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
280900Z POSITION NEAR 16.3N 136.1E.
TYPHOON (TY) 23W (MIRINAE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 930 NM EAST OF
MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 15 KNOTS OVER THE PAST
SIX HOURS. DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW, KNES AND RJTD INDICATE AN 80
TO 90 KNOT CYCLONE. THE SYSTEM HAS INTENSIFIED 10 KNOTS SINCE THE
PREVIOUS FORECAST, DUE IN PART TO SUSTAINED POLEWARD OUTFLOW INTO AN
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH PASSING TO THE NORTH. STRONG RADIAL OUTFLOW AND
WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES HAVE ALSO BEEN FACTORS IN INTEN-
SIFICATION, AND WILL PROMOTE FURTHER INTENSIFICATION AS POLEWARD
OUTFLOW BEGINS TO SHUT DOWN OVER THE NEXT 06 TO 12 HOURS. LANDFALL
WITH LUZON IS STILL EXPECTED TO OCCUR AROUND 31/06Z, AFTER WHICH
MIRINAE WILL EMERGE INTO THE SOUTH CHINA SEA AS A WEAKENED TYPHOON.
THE FORECAST TRACK REFLECTS A TIGHT GROUPING AMONG THE CONSENSUS
MEMBERS INDICATING A GENERALLY WESTWARD TRACK. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT
WAVE HEIGHT AT 280600Z IS 22 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 281500Z,
282100Z, 290300Z AND 290900Z.//
NNNN
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#676 Postby ManilaTC » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:56 am

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Here is another batch of model runs. Take note of the Gray line, which is from a european model (UKMET)

Most of the models are signifying a dive because of the very strong ridge.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#677 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:05 am

ClarkEligue wrote:Image

Here is another batch of model runs. Take note of the Gray line, which is from a european model (UKMET)

Most of the models are signifying a dive because of the very strong ridge.


I'm actually expecting that to happen.............We need to watch the movement of MIRINAE in the next couple of hours..
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#678 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:09 am

i think jtwc is not considering the STR strong enough to dive mirinae significantly south of its forecast track. looks like it is still heading generally westwards.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON MIRINAE (23W)

#679 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:23 am

dexterlabio wrote:i think jtwc is not considering the STR strong enough to dive mirinae significantly south of its forecast track. looks like it is still heading generally westwards.


Yup....I think we'll have a better idea tomorrow.....
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#680 Postby oaba09 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:40 am

mirinae appears to be continuously moving westwards as of the moment......
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