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Disturbed area north of Panama - (Is invest 99L)

#1 Postby boca » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:47 am

That area just developed recently and I'm wondering if that could be the spawn of future Richard.

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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#2 Postby caneseddy » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:55 am

It seems like it could be because the GFS runs have initialized future "Richard" in that same area where the blob is..however, Richard is not born until Sunday/Monday, so it may not be that mass there but maybe something will form there

GFS has been the only model that has shown anything with "Richard" so I need to see more consensus from other models before I jump on board..however, most of the models busted on Paula (especially the Canadian, which has never had Paula as a closed low, even now when it's a Category 2), so I'm hesitant to even jump on board if more models start showing Richard

We will see, but we are getting close to the second peak of the season whereby more storms hit Florida...also the fact that it hits around Wilma's anniversary is eerie...this weekend we should have a better idea
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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#3 Postby GCANE » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:19 pm

Anti-cyclone is anchored.

Outflow from Paula has moistened mid-levels.

Nothing currently on 850mb vorticity except the persistent one just north of Panama that never goes anywhere.

If some convection fires and / or persistent stratiform precipitation develops, then the upper troposphere could develop a PV anomaly due to diabatic heating.

It could in turn work it way to the surface as a top-down development.


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#4 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:33 pm

^^^
That's some anticyclone in the Caribbean. It doesn't get any more dangerous than that IMO. Richard seems to be looking a strong possibility looking at synoptics alone..
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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#5 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:46 am

Currently some LL to UL drying has occurred looking at TPW and WV.

However theta-e forecast is showing moisture will be returning into the area.

It looks like a TUTT may spin up around the Leewards in about 100 hrs which could fire off some shear induced MCS's.

That in turn could be the spark that initiates a mid-level PV anomaly.

It looks like something may be off the coast of Nicaragua in about 180 hrs.


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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#6 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:03 am

TUTT is currently at 14N 44W

This will be the one that will linger around the area and eventually move a bit west closer to the islands.


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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#7 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:06 am

Looks like GFS stalls it around 12N 80W.

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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#8 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:52 pm

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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#9 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:53 pm

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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#10 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:45 pm

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Re: Disturbed area SE of Paula

#11 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:46 pm

12Z GFS Ensemble members will likely raise an eyebrow or two.
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#12 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:47 pm

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and we start the process all over again!
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Re: Disturbed area north of Panama

#13 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:48 pm

Boca, I edited the title to put North of Panama, to be more specific about the area of interest the models are despicting for possible development.
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Re: Disturbed area north of Panama

#14 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:21 pm

18Z GFS is back with our feature in the SW Caribbean by hour 114. Looks to be a general monsoonal gyre between the EPAC and SW Caribbean. Should be interesting to watch unfold.
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Re: Disturbed area north of Panama

#15 Postby LarryWx » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:05 pm

King Richard is back to being suicidal in Central America/Yucatan on the 18Z gfs. The king is very wishywashy. ;)
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Re: Disturbed area north of Panama

#16 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:56 pm

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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT THU OCT 14 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM PAULA...LOCATED ABOUT 25 MILES EAST OF HAVANA CUBA AND ABOUT
45 MILES WEST OF VERADERO CUBA.

AN AREA OF THUNDERSTORMS HAS DEVELOPED OVER THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE ONLY MARGINALLY
FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...BUT
CONDITIONS MAY BECOME MORE CONDUCIVE AFTERWARDS. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS THE DISTURBANCE MOVES LITTLE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
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#17 Postby Vortex » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:56 pm

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#18 Postby Vortex » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:57 pm

12Z NOGAPS pretty aggresive....



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Re: Disturbed area north of Panama - Code Yellow

#20 Postby Macrocane » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:20 pm

18z GFS seems like a new version of Mitch but with a shorter life, it really bears watching.
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