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#141 Postby Metalicwx220 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:11 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:I think they should do like a fan poll kinda thing. Like the WMO sends out a list of the unretired names after the season that they were borderline on retiring but didn't and people get to vote for the one they think most deserves to be retired.


This is not American Idol or any TV show. I don't understant why something that 99.9% of the population could care less about has to be given such an importancy. People only care to know what they need to do to be ready and when, they care less if it's named John, Juan or Jean!

Actually the name is more of what some people care about besides the other stuff. What if another hurricane named katrina makes landfall in New orleans every year? How would you be able to tell the difference? :D
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#142 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:03 pm

Metalicwx220 wrote:Actually the name is more of what some people care about besides the other stuff. What if another hurricane named katrina makes landfall in New orleans every year? How would you be able to tell the difference? :D


In that case, evacuate New Orleans completely and make the area a national park. Hurricane geeks like us put attention on the name of the storm and I love to remember every one of them, but 99.9% of the population isn't like that. People only care about the intensity of the storm and what they need to do to survive it.

Maybe we can just number the storms from 1 to infinite and we would never see a repeat! lol
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#143 Postby Metalicwx220 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:34 pm

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Metalicwx220 wrote:Actually the name is more of what some people care about besides the other stuff. What if another hurricane named katrina makes landfall in New orleans every year? How would you be able to tell the difference? :D


In that case, evacuate New Orleans completely and make the area a national park. Hurricane geeks like us put attention on the name of the storm and I love to remember every one of them, but 99.9% of the population isn't like that. People only care about the intensity of the storm and what they need to do to survive it.

Maybe we can just number the storms from 1 to infinite and we would never see a repeat! lol

LOL...... they should number tornadoes lol
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#144 Postby Hurricane Jed » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:30 pm

Actually I know quite a few people that care about the name of a storm and they aren't weather geeks either. Its useful to both meteorologists and citizens of the coastal regions. If there are multiple hurricanes out there and one is headed your way its easier to remember a name than a number and keep track of it. Plus people who have been hit by a named storm before are able to more easily recall the name of it and its memories if something else is approaching. That name tends to stick with them and they will associate it and its effects with other tropical systems and make them more likely to evacuate. Plus a name can add a certain element to the storm. For example people might think the name makes the storm more frightening (Igor), it reminds them a previous storm (Katrina), a politician they hate (Bill Clinton) and ex-relationship they had a bad experience with (Rita or Floyd). Names can act as a trigger. So while intensity and where the storm is going do matter so does the name.
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#145 Postby Hurricane Jed » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:17 am

March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.
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#146 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:40 pm

Hurricane Jed wrote:March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.


i seriously hope this season isn't totally screwed over without any retired names. I want some new names on the list.
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#147 Postby Hurricane Jed » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:21 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.


i seriously hope this season isn't totally screwed over without any retired names. I want some new names on the list.


It would be quite strange if they didn't.
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#148 Postby Florida1118 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:25 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.


i seriously hope this season isn't totally screwed over without any retired names. I want some new names on the list.

I hate having new names on the list. By the end of the season Ive got them memorized and then they change them up on me and the connection you had with the old names are gone. That and the only time they leave is never good....
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#149 Postby Hurricane Jed » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:33 pm

Florida1118 wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.


i seriously hope this season isn't totally screwed over without any retired names. I want some new names on the list.

I hate having new names on the list. By the end of the season Ive got them memorized and then they change them up on me and the connection you had with the old names are gone. That and the only time they leave is never good....


I still find myself saying Fabian instead of Fred when reciting List 1.
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Re: 2010 retired hurricanes

#150 Postby Migle » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:48 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:March 1st! In a couple of weeks we should know which names will be retired.


i seriously hope this season isn't totally screwed over without any retired names. I want some new names on the list.


Well, we know Agatha and Karl are both pretty much locks.
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#151 Postby Hurricane Jed » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm

You never know though. Hurricane Gert killed 76 throughout Central America in 1993 and they never retired it. And look what Emily did in 2005 and yet they never retired it.
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#152 Postby Macrocane » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:33 pm

:uarrow: Yeah, I'm pretty impressed that Gert was not retired usually the bad Central American storms have been retired: Joan, Stan, Keith, Felix, Alma to name a few. Francelia is another name that was not retired and was pretty bad, I hope that won't be the case with Agatha.
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#153 Postby Hurricane Jed » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:51 pm

Of the 75 names currently retired (are Gracie 1959 and Greta 1978 retired? Some sources list Gracie as retired and apparently the WMO took the name Greta off the list so I'm not too sure), anyways of the names currently retired only about 20 of those never hit the U.S. or U.S. territory or had a significant impact if the storm did hit the U.S. or U.S. territory.
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#154 Postby Ad Novoxium » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:19 am

Hurricane Jed wrote:Of the 75 names currently retired (are Gracie 1959 and Greta 1978 retired? Some sources list Gracie as retired and apparently the WMO took the name Greta off the list so I'm not too sure), anyways of the names currently retired only about 20 of those never hit the U.S. or U.S. territory or had a significant impact if the storm did hit the U.S. or U.S. territory.

I doubt Greta was retired. Although listed, they did a full take-down of those lists after that year. In fact, all-female lists apparently were drawn up for 1979 and 1980 (the names that would have been retired if those lists got used would've been Dot, Franny, and Abby). So to an extent, I think Greta was spared. As for Gracie, I do think it was retired, but they can't find the papers on this one.
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#155 Postby Hurricane Jed » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:51 pm

Ad Novoxium wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:Of the 75 names currently retired (are Gracie 1959 and Greta 1978 retired? Some sources list Gracie as retired and apparently the WMO took the name Greta off the list so I'm not too sure), anyways of the names currently retired only about 20 of those never hit the U.S. or U.S. territory or had a significant impact if the storm did hit the U.S. or U.S. territory.

I doubt Greta was retired. Although listed, they did a full take-down of those lists after that year. In fact, all-female lists apparently were drawn up for 1979 and 1980 (the names that would have been retired if those lists got used would've been Dot, Franny, and Abby). So to an extent, I think Greta was spared. As for Gracie, I do think it was retired, but they can't find the papers on this one.


Thank you. I wasn't too sure. Maybe when reanalysis gets to those years we will know.
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#156 Postby Hurricane Jed » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:57 pm

Does anyone think that since Alex also had a significant impact on South Texas that that increases the likelihood of them retiring it? I figure at least either the U.S. or Mexico will ask for its retirement.
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#157 Postby Florida1118 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:26 am

Hurricane Jed wrote:Does anyone think that since Alex also had a significant impact on South Texas that that increases the likelihood of them retiring it? I figure at least either the U.S. or Mexico will ask for its retirement.

Well 12 people died in Mexico, and damages were near 1.5 billion USD. Surge was above 5ft, and rain of 20+ inches fell in Mexico...In Texas damage was 10 million to agriculture ,no deaths, and rain of around 5-10 inches or so. So its really up to Mexico as to whether they want it to be used again, not so much the United States.
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#158 Postby Hurricane Jed » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:44 am

I thought 33 people were killed and another 18 indirectly?
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Re: 2010 retired hurricanes

#159 Postby Hurricanehink » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:50 am

Hurricane Jed wrote:
Ad Novoxium wrote:
Hurricane Jed wrote:Of the 75 names currently retired (are Gracie 1959 and Greta 1978 retired? Some sources list Gracie as retired and apparently the WMO took the name Greta off the list so I'm not too sure), anyways of the names currently retired only about 20 of those never hit the U.S. or U.S. territory or had a significant impact if the storm did hit the U.S. or U.S. territory.

I doubt Greta was retired. Although listed, they did a full take-down of those lists after that year. In fact, all-female lists apparently were drawn up for 1979 and 1980 (the names that would have been retired if those lists got used would've been Dot, Franny, and Abby). So to an extent, I think Greta was spared. As for Gracie, I do think it was retired, but they can't find the papers on this one.


Thank you. I wasn't too sure. Maybe when reanalysis gets to those years we will know.


Actually, the WMO lists Greta's name as being retired here - http://www.cmo.org.tt/COMAG/COMAG01/Docs/TCP30-2006%20EN.pdf
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#160 Postby Florida1118 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:58 am

Hurricane Jed wrote:I thought 33 people were killed and another 18 indirectly?


"Although media accounts of fatalities associated with Alex are conflicting, the storm is
believed to have caused 12 direct deaths in the state of Nuevo León, Mexico." Thats From the Alex TCR, so that's what I went by. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL012010_Alex.pdf
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