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#5421 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:57 pm

The 12Z CMC dropped the Gulf system and shows nothing else through 240 hours.

The 12Z GFS dropped the W Car / BOC system and shows nothing else through 384 hours.

The 12Z NAVGEM shows nothing through 180 hours.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5422 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:07 pm

ook what coming toward florida on cmc run on link here
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#5423 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:09 pm

It's weird that the reliable models don't have anything so far in August as the season is starting to climb the mountain to the September 10 peak day.

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#5424 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:17 pm

we should remember that 2010 was DEAD until late August
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#5425 Postby Ntxw » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:00 pm

The MJO for the most part is incoherent and virtually all of the models keep it that way inside the circle. GFS does show hints of it in phase 1 but I'm not buying it. For the most part the MJO is not favorable or unfavorable for development, we'll have to look at other factors for guidance.
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#5426 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:22 pm

Finally a sign of life with the global models as the 12Z ECMWF is showing something near the Cape Verde islands at 240 hours. But that low is rather north:

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#5427 Postby ROCK » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:04 pm

12Z is just one run...wait for the 18Z....they have already started sniffing out long range activity. It wont be long before it sticks and moves into the med range.
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#5428 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:11 pm

ROCK wrote:
LaBreeze wrote:
ROCK wrote::uarrow: granted its la la land but it shows that in a week or two the lid is coming off...IMO....


Please elaborate - what are some of the scenarios that you are seeing with this? Fill us in -


A. models long range sniffing out development
B. models suggesting lowering pressures
C. the MJO is making its way around in a week or 2
D. the sst's are toasty
E. CSU updated their forecast to 18/8/3...we are not even close yet
F. the current SAL surge will be gone
G. Climo suggest an uptick in August
H. model suggest strong ridging in the long range which would result in US landfalls
I. gut feeling
J. I had a vision
K. I was eating my mash potatoes and for some reason I started making a cat 5 hurricane out of them.


thats all I can think of attm....

I love it Rock - especially letter "K". Sometimes I feel like "I" and "J" as well. Thanks for answering and I hope you enjoyed your Cat 5 potatoes. :D
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#5429 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:28 pm

12z CMC ensembles begin to show lower pressures in the eastern Atlantic in about 5 days and on. Time range has gone down so it's been consistent with this idea the last few days.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5430 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:31 pm

:uarrow: Look where is the Azores High located,well NE which causes less trade winds in the lower latitudes of MDR.
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#5431 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:41 pm

cycloneye wrote::uarrow: Look where is the Azores High located,well NE which causes less trade winds in the lower latitudes of MDR.

Which means whatever storms develop off of Africa will recurve right?
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#5432 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:43 pm

Surface pressure anomalies


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#5433 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:43 pm

Hurricane Alexis wrote:12z CMC ensembles begin to show lower pressures in the eastern Atlantic in about 5 days and on. Time range has gone down so it's been consistent with this idea the last few days.

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Those lower pressures in the Eastern Atlantic just west of the Cape Verde islands have been shown on a few different models over the past 5-7 days.
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#5434 Postby Javlin » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:09 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cycloneye wrote::uarrow: Look where is the Azores High located,well NE which causes less trade winds in the lower latitudes of MDR.

Which means whatever storms develop off of Africa will recurve right?


Look @ 1016 pressure line all the way to FL long tracker AZ high upper R/S all the blue High pressure numbers while the low pressure(red)are further S.Atleast that is my take ;)
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5435 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:34 pm

Since it looks like there wont be anything going on in the next few weeks at the very least, let's talk about some long range football. LSU #13 will be making a run this year. Am feeling a lot more confident about that than the lid coming off in 2-3 more weeks. :cheesy: sorry just had to get that out. Pumped up its almost time. :flag:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5436 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:36 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Since it looks like there wont be anything going on in the next few weeks at the very least, let's talk about some long range football. LSU #13 will be making a run this year. Am feeling a lot more confident about that than the lid coming off in 2-3 more weeks. :cheesy: sorry just had to get that out. Pumped up its almost time. :flag:


We have a sports forum where you can talk all about sports.

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#5437 Postby ninel conde » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:37 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Since it looks like there wont be anything going on in the next few weeks at the very least, let's talk about some long range football. LSU #13 will be making a run this year. Am feeling a lot more confident about that than the lid coming off in 2-3 more weeks. :cheesy: sorry just had to get that out. Pumped up its almost time. :flag:


models are giving hints for late in the month.
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#5438 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Since it looks like there wont be anything going on in the next few weeks at the very least, let's talk about some long range football. LSU #13 will be making a run this year. Am feeling a lot more confident about that than the lid coming off in 2-3 more weeks. :cheesy: sorry just had to get that out. Pumped up its almost time. :flag:


We have a sports forum where you can talk all about sports.

viewforum.php?f=17


Thanks cycloneye did not know this, appreciate it.

Ninel, might be showing hints but have done it many times before and where did that leave us. Just going in wait and see mode til things actually do come alive.
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#5439 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:52 pm

The 0zGFS is now picking up on something coming off of africa at day 7 as a 1002 mb low at about 18N and moves it west to north of due west until about 13 days when it get picked up by the trough but as we all know the steering currents could be alot different in more than 5 days than what is modeled

as a side note another system starts a formation at 300hrs and at hr 384 is at 13N 50W as a 1008 mb low so the GFS shows the lid coming off around mid August and possibly being relentless at least starting next week which would follow very well with climatology

P.S. it joins the Euro with a low at 18N

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#5440 Postby Alyono » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:58 pm

nothing will develop if it moves off of Africa at 18N
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