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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#141 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:11 am

RL3AO wrote:Megi (2010) at 155kt


Usagi




Megi had the warmer eye, Usagi has a little stronger convection.


Megi did had recon which found winds that supported 170-175 knots at the surface...Usagi none but there isn't much difference between the two...probrably 10-15 knots weaker... :eek: pressure likely sub 900 as background pressure is lower in this basin than any in the world...
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#142 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:23 am

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#143 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:49 am

WTPN32 PGTW 191500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. SUPER TYPHOON 17W (USAGI) WARNING NR 012
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
WARNING POSITION:
191200Z --- NEAR 18.2N 127.3E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 310 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 020 NM
POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 140 KT, GUSTS 170 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
120 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 18.2N 127.3E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
200000Z --- 19.3N 125.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 145 KT, GUSTS 175 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 125 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
115 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
125 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 300 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
201200Z --- 20.3N 123.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 135 KT, GUSTS 165 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 075 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
075 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 130 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
130 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 10 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
210000Z --- 21.2N 121.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 120 KT, GUSTS 145 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 075 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
075 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
135 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
211200Z --- 21.8N 119.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 110 KT, GUSTS 135 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
075 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
140 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 280 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
221200Z --- 22.4N 115.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 135 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
135 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 270 DEG/ 09 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
231200Z --- 22.4N 111.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 08 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
241200Z --- 22.1N 107.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 045 KT, GUSTS 055 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
191500Z POSITION NEAR 18.5N 126.9E.
SUPER TYPHOON 17W (USAGI), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 422 NM EAST-
NORTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT 09
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT
191200Z IS 37 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 192100Z, 200300Z, 200900Z AND
201500Z.//
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#144 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:49 am

current ace of Usagi stands at 6.41 per Dr, Ryan Maue's website... heck... Humberto got 8.2625... well that's because Humberto is older than our "rabbit"
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#145 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:51 am

mrbagyo wrote:current ace of Usagi stands at 6.41 per Dr, Ryan Maue's website... heck... Humberto got 8.2625... well that's because Humberto is older than our "rabbit"


It will be adding nearly 2 every six hours so Humberto won't be ahead much longer.
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#146 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:53 am

The eye continues to warm, 150kt should be a safe estimate for now
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#147 Postby Ntxw » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:53 am

Humberto isn't even a mile within this storm's league. ACE will grow, think it easily tops 15+ if not 20 or more in the end.
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#148 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:55 am

mrbagyo wrote:current ace of Usagi stands at 6.41 per Dr, Ryan Maue's website... heck... Humberto got 8.2625... well that's because Humberto is older than our "rabbit"



17W USAGI 140 knots 140 knots 6.41...
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#149 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:56 am

Clearly the eye was warmed into the "warm medium gray" range, cementing this as an easy T7.5
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#150 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:02 am

2013SEP19 130100 7.5 899.8 155.0 7.5 7.6 7.6 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 8.60 -80.89 EYE 17 IR 73.8 18.32 -127.09 COMBO MTSAT2 29.6

Current Satellite Estimate
Raw T

easily supports an intensity of 155 to 160 knots...
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#151 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:07 am

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#152 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:11 am

We are watching what may be the peaking of the strongest tropical cyclone on Earth this year.
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#153 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:44 am

Looks to be about 160 kt to me. Easily a T7.5. If only Recon was in there!
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#154 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:48 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Looks to be about 160 kt to me. Easily a T7.5. If only Recon was in there!


We'd have aircraft recon into Usagi, if it were 1987!!! It's been over 26 years since routine recon in West Pac. How sad... :(
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#155 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:49 am

Latest Prognostic Reasoning...


WDPN32 PGTW 191500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 17W (USAGI) WARNING NR
12//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 17W (USAGI), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 422 NM
EAST-NORTHEAST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT
09 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. STY 17W HAS RAPIDLY INTENSIFIED
OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS WITH A 75-KNOT INCREASE IN MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS FROM 65 TO 140 KNOTS. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY
DEPICTS A 15-NM ROUND EYE WITH A BANDING FEATURE OVER THE SOUTHWEST
QUADRANT. ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY DEPICTS RADIAL OUTFLOW, WHICH
IS FUELING THE RECENT RI PHASE. A 190924Z WINDSAT 37H IMAGE DEPICTS
AN INCIPIENT EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE (ERC) WITH A WEAK OUTER BAND
NOW SURROUNDING THE EYEWALL WITH A DEFINED MOAT. THERE IS HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL POSITION BASED ON THE EYE IN IMAGERY. THE
INITIAL INTENSITY IS BASED ON DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 140
KNOTS FROM ALL AGENCIES. STY 17W IS TRACKING NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE
SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) THAT EXTENDS FROM
CENTRAL CHINA INTO THE EAST CHINA SEA.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. STY 17W IS FORECAST TO TURN WEST-NORTHWESTWARD BY TAU 24 AS
THE SYSTEM TRACKS UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF AN EAST-
WEST ORIENTED STR. BASED ON THE 19/00Z 500MB ANALYSIS, THE STR IS
ASSESSED AS STRONG BASED ON 25 TO 40 KNOT EASTERLY WINDS AND EXTENDS
FROM 150E LONGITUDE WESTWARD INTO CENTRAL CHINA. THE STR IS EXPECTED
TO MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD AND WILL DRIVE THE SYSTEM
WESTWARD AT 10 TO 12 KNOTS SPEED THROUGH TAU 72. WITH THE EXCEPTION
OF EGRR, DYNAMIC GUIDANCE IS IN TIGHT AGREEMENT WITH MINOR
DIFFERENCES IN TRACK SPEED. STY 17W IS FORECAST TO MAINTAIN
INTENSITY NEAR 140 KNOTS THROUGH TAU 12; HOWEVER, INITIAL WEAKENING
IS EXPECTED BETWEEN TAU 12 AND TAU 24 DUE TO THE ERC. STY 17W WILL
FURTHER WEAKEN AFTER TAU 36 AS IT BEGINS TO APPROACH TAIWAN AND
ENCOUNTERS INCREASING LAND INTERACTION.
C. IN THE EXTENDED TAUS, DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN TIGHT
AGREEMENT, THEREFORE, THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST
TRACK. STY 17W SHOULD MAKE LANDFALL NEAR HONG KONG BY TAU 72 THEN
WEAKEN SIGNIFICANTLY AS IT SKIRTS THE SOUTHERN COAST OF CHINA.//
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#156 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:53 am

euro6208 wrote:2013SEP19 130100 7.5 899.8 155.0 7.5 7.6 7.6 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 8.60 -80.89 EYE 17 IR 73.8 18.32 -127.09 COMBO MTSAT2 29.6

Current Satellite Estimate
Raw T

easily supports an intensity of 155 to 160 knots...


What's the source of this data?
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Re: WPAC: USAGI - Typhoon

#157 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:55 am

wxman57 wrote:
euro6208 wrote:2013SEP19 130100 7.5 899.8 155.0 7.5 7.6 7.6 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 8.60 -80.89 EYE 17 IR 73.8 18.32 -127.09 COMBO MTSAT2 29.6

Current Satellite Estimate
Raw T

easily supports an intensity of 155 to 160 knots...


What's the source of this data?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/20 ... W-list.txt
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#158 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:57 am

sure doesn't look like 140kts. Even the previous Cat5 tropical cyclone, Bopha, appears weaker compared to this beast right here.
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#159 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:02 am

Usagi is very strong but doesn't qualify a 160kt storm, there's a slight chance it could reach that intensity only if had recon
From the JTWC standard it is unlikely to be given any intensity higher than 150kt IMO
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#160 Postby Alyono » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:04 am

looks like a solid 7.0 to me
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