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#2461 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:41 pm

TheProfessor wrote:What about the euro? Does it show potential winter weather for North Texas too?


We only have free access to the European model out to 240 hours (10 days). This period which we're discussing is just beyond that realm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2462 Postby hriverajr » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:42 pm

I agree Portastorm. I was just referring to the actual run itself. I am hoping for winter fun as much as you are. Something different from the unbearable summers here. :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2463 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:44 pm

hriverajr wrote:I agree Portastorm. I was just referring to the actual run itself. I am hoping for winter fun as much as you are. Something different from the unbearable summers here. :)


Oh, I know ... and to be fair, you're absolutely right. The surface progs and even the 500mb levels on the GFS op runs suggest the coldest air stays north and east of us. To date it doesn't appear like a direct, thar-she-blows type unleashing of polar air. But the pattern does appear to be changing back to a colder, stormier pattern after Christmas.

And yes, you who lives in Del Rio ... you know about "unbearable summers" better than most. As someone who has in-laws and family in Del Rio, I also know of which you speak! :wink:
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#2464 Postby TheProfessor » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:59 pm

Is there a threat for flooding for parts of North Texas. NWS is predicting 2-3 inches of rain this weekend and the ground is still saturated from all the ice.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2465 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:00 pm

Interesting status update on Facebook from Wxrisk.com (David Tolleris):

**ALERT** POTENTIAL for prolonged period of SERIOUS winter wx DEC 30- JAN 15. POLAR VORTEX Looks to be forced SOUTH- flipping AO to Neg
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2466 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:11 pm

Oh, Tolleris....

I love his passion, but he and Bastardi really love to shout to the mountaintops that Cold is coming and Hell's comin with it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2467 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:12 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Oh, Tolleris....

I love his passion, but he and Bastardi really love to shout to the mountaintops that Cold is coming and Hell's comin with it.


Yeah ... he is probe to hyperbole like Joe. But one thing I've noticed about DT is that he is quick to admit when he's wrong and has blown a forecast. I have not noticed that about JB.

We'll see if they're right soon enough, eh?!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2468 Postby hriverajr » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:19 pm

Haha little snow bulls eye in Del Rio according to Canadian (just having fun)

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/413732672603578368/photo/1
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2469 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:24 pm

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ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Oh, Tolleris....

I love his passion, but he and Bastardi really love to shout to the mountaintops that Cold is coming and Hell's comin with it.


Yeah ... he is probe to hyperbole like Joe. But one thing I've noticed about DT is that he is quick to admit when he's wrong and has blown a forecast. I have not noticed that about JB.

We'll see if they're right soon enough, eh?!



That's true, and unlike JB, Tolleris will hedge a bit, which is needed with long range grandioso claims.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2470 Postby Comanche » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:26 pm

Post from WSI mentions the PV as well...

WSI Energy Weather ‏@WSI_Energy 1h

12Z GFS op forecast now splitting stratospheric polar vortex at the end of 11-15 day forecast pic.twitter.com/2DFbc2Arek
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2471 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:35 pm

Plotted a Meteogram for my brother in Rapid City, SD based off the GFS long range.

LOL, a balmy high of -30F on 1/4.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2472 Postby Comanche » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:42 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Plotted a Meteogram for my brother in Rapid City, SD based off the GFS long range.

LOL, a balmy high of -30F on 1/4.


Stock up on firewood and liquor!! Maybe Porta can redirect his Grey Goose fleet to the Dakotas....(humanitarian mission).
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2473 Postby dhweather » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:46 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Plotted a Meteogram for my brother in Rapid City, SD based off the GFS long range.

LOL, a balmy high of -30F on 1/4.


That's fun cold. Where you can get a pot of boiling water, go outside and toss it up in the air, and it evaporates almost instantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_BL_9xyRco


Of course the temps would get really old after about 10 minutes of play time.
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#2474 Postby dhweather » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:48 pm

Oh the FWD folks have posted their SKYWARN training schedule for 2014:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/skywarnsch.php?file=sptrsch
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#2475 Postby Portastorm » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:11 pm

dhweather wrote:Oh the FWD folks have posted their SKYWARN training schedule for 2014:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/skywarnsch.php?file=sptrsch


Thanks dhweather! This is very good and helpful information. I'm going to include it over on the US & Caribbean Weather Forum as well and mention on the Texas Weather Board page on Facebook.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2476 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:13 pm

12Z Euro is only in through 138hrs on my workstation. Should be fully in within the next 30 min. Ensembles won't be in fully for another 60-90 min. I do agree that the general pattern over the coming weeks might be conducive to the transport of cold Arctic air southward toward Texas by the end of the month and into the first week or so in January. Too soon to believe any model run about late December, though.
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#2477 Postby Comanche » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:18 pm

wxman57 wrote:12Z Euro is only in through 138hrs on my workstation. Should be fully in within the next 30 min. Ensembles won't be in fully for another 60-90 min. I do agree that the general pattern over the coming weeks might be conducive to the transport of cold Arctic air southward toward Texas by the end of the month and into the first week or so in January. Too soon to believe any model run about late December, though.


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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2478 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:24 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Plotted a Meteogram for my brother in Rapid City, SD based off the GFS long range.

LOL, a balmy high of -30F on 1/4.


I was curious so I plotted it myself. Note that the final time point on the graphic is 6am on the 4th.

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2479 Postby dhweather » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:26 pm

wxman57 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Plotted a Meteogram for my brother in Rapid City, SD based off the GFS long range.

LOL, a balmy high of -30F on 1/4.


I was curious so I plotted it myself. Note that the final time point on the graphic is 6am on the 4th.

http://home.comcast.net/~cgh57/rapgfs12zdec19.gif



Like I said, fun for about 10 minutes. Good lord that's cold!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2480 Postby dhweather » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:50 pm

For entertainment/discussion purposes only. The 12Z GFS 384 hours out - for Jan 4, 2014.


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