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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5261 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:13 pm

FWIW, I just looked at the qpf values for Austin (KAUS) for this coming winter event per the GFS. Again, remember last week we had only .08".

0z - .09"
6z - .21"
12z - .14"
18z - .16"

Oh, and the last three GFS runs have kept Austin's temperature BELOW freezing from 12z Tuesday until 15z Wednesday. So all of that QPF will be of a frozen variety (freezing rain/sleet/snow/maybe even graupel).
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5262 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:15 pm

Conroe meteogram is wow... Bottoms out at 14 and 3-5 inches if snow depending on onset of precip
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#5263 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:19 pm

Below is the 12zCMC Ensembles forecast Precip Totals thru Wednesday Morning, clearly the operational 12zCMC is an outlier among its ensembles.

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5264 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:22 pm

Lets not forget the other element, powerful Arctic front is coming down the plains associated with big high pressure. A ground blizzard is currently ongoing in the Northern Plains. Wxman57 still dreams of 1986...

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5265 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:24 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Interesting 18Z GFS meteogram for Houston. About 2-4" snow and a low Wed of 17, and that's just 2m temps. MOS will probably be colder:

http://home.comcast.net/~cgh57/iahgfs18zjan26.gif


How likely is that to verify in precip amounts and that 17? What are you thoughts on the latest model "trends"?


If we do get a covering of snow/ice across Houston on Tuesday then when the short wave passes Tuesday night we'll get a lot colder than if there was no ice on the ground.
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#5266 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:19 pm

I would like to add this for the Houston metro area (and really much of SE Texas). Temperatures this go around will be colder than last week which was marginally 30-32 when the precip fell. This time it's going to be the 27-29 range, that makes a big difference on the roads. If 1-2 inches of sleet/frz rain (quite possible) were to fall in those temps there will be a lot of headaches not just on bridges and overpasses. Could be similar to what DFW saw in December with those temperatures. For a region not to have seen weather like such in a long time, it's dangerous. Unfortunately the other side of something like this is there will be loss of life or property for people who are not prepared and assume they can brave it if it verifies.
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#5267 Postby gboudx » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:31 pm

For NTX folks, Steve McCauley will be running his Stat Method on the February 3-6 timeframe later.

Significant precipitation will avoid north Texas this week, but there are still signs of a major pattern shift coming up as we go into the first week of February. Specifically, the days from Feb 3 - Feb 6 look interesting from a precipitation standpoint, and I will be running the stat method on this later this afternoon after I get a few hours of studying in for the day.
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#5268 Postby Houstonia » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:44 pm

Yeah, I'm getting a bit concerned about people trying to get home from work on Tuesday night. I don't sees school closures happening until after the roads get bad. :-(. I had friends griping about closures last week, claiming THEY didn't see any ice. This coming from people who didn't need to use the freeways mostly.
Ntxw wrote:I would like to add this for the Houston metro area (and really much of SE Texas). Temperatures this go around will be colder than last week which was marginally 30-32 when the precip fell. This time it's going to be the 27-29 range, that makes a big difference on the roads. If 1-2 inches of sleet/frz rain (quite possible) were to fall in those temps there will be a lot of headaches not just on bridges and overpasses. Could be similar to what DFW saw in December with those temperatures. For a region not to have seen weather like such in a long time, it's dangerous. Unfortunately the other side of something like this is there will be loss of life or property for people who are not prepared and assume they can brave it if it verifies.
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#5269 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:44 pm

gboudx wrote:For NTX folks, Steve McCauley will be running his Stat Method on the February 3-6 timeframe later.

Significant precipitation will avoid north Texas this week, but there are still signs of a major pattern shift coming up as we go into the first week of February. Specifically, the days from Feb 3 - Feb 6 look interesting from a precipitation standpoint, and I will be running the stat method on this later this afternoon after I get a few hours of studying in for the day.


Oklahoma, North Texas, West Texas, and Arkansas should be monitoring that time frame. There's been a lot of noise from the OP and Ensemble guidance. The current MJO/Kelvin wave will arrive and the -PNA will kick out some big systems.
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#5270 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:01 pm

Houstonia wrote:Yeah, I'm getting a bit concerned about people trying to get home from work on Tuesday night. I don't sees school closures happening until after the roads get bad. :-(. I had friends griping about closures last week, claiming THEY didn't see any ice. This coming from people who didn't need to use the freeways mostly.


Yep it's not fun. A lot of talk is snow but really what the NAM/GFS are showing is a big sleet storm for Houston ending as a little snow. Will be a mess if that verified
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#5271 Postby megsy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:08 pm

Houstonia wrote:Yeah, I'm getting a bit concerned about people trying to get home from work on Tuesday night. I don't sees school closures happening until after the roads get bad. :-(. I had friends griping about closures last week, claiming THEY didn't see any ice. This coming from people who didn't need to use the freeways mostly.
It was bad enough trying to get home on Thursday night (2 hours on the bus to Katy; usually takes 45 min or so). Depending on what the models are showing tomorrow, there's a big chance I'm not going into the office on Tuesday. Just not worth the risk.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5272 Postby ROCK » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:49 pm

0Z NAM is rolling in...out 3 hrs
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5273 Postby Spookyb4 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:28 pm

My concern would be power outages. I have a generator and gas heat, so we will be fine.
I'm waiting for wxman57 to bring the heat up to 90 degrees. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5274 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:28 pm

00z NAM at 42 hours. Houston/Galveston/Beamont look at this.

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#5275 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:30 pm

Ummmm what? Is that sleet?
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#5276 Postby stormlover2013 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:33 pm

That's all snow!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5277 Postby Texashawk » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:34 pm

cycloneye wrote:00z NAM at 42 hours. Houston/Galveston/Beamont look at this.

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If that verified... Holy @#:$:&/! :eek:
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#5278 Postby southerngale » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:34 pm

How many inches?

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#5279 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:36 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:That's all snow!!!


How can you tell? The high reflectivity? Im liking it. Thats crazy heavy snow though

That means precip before 6pm too. Tad early. Holy. Moly.
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#5280 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:39 pm

NAM is mostly all sleet for SE Texas, one heck of an sleet storm
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