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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:El Nino until late Spring/Early summer

#6841 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:33 pm

CPC January update has El Nino fading during the Spring and by late Spring or early Summer it will turn Neutral.


EL NIÑO/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION (ENSO)
DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION
issued by
CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER/NCEP/NWS
and the International Research Institute for Climate and Society
14 January 2016


ENSO Alert System Status: El Niño Advisory




Synopsis: A strong El Niño is expected to gradually weaken through spring 2016, and to transition to ENSO-neutral during late spring or early summer.

A strong El Niño continued during December, with well above-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1). All weekly Niño indices decreased slightly from the previous month (Fig. 2). The subsurface temperatures in the central and eastern Pacific, while still well above average, weakened (Fig. 3) due to an upwelling equatorial oceanic Kelvin wave (Fig. 4). Significant low-level westerly wind anomalies and upper-level easterly wind anomalies continued over much of the tropical Pacific. During the last week, another westerly wind burst occurred in the east-central Pacific. The traditional and equatorial Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) values remained strongly negative. Also, convection remained strong over the central and east-central tropical Pacific, and suppressed over Indonesia (Fig. 5). Collectively, these atmospheric and oceanic anomalies reflect the continuation of a strong El Niño episode.

Most models indicate that a strong El Niño will weaken with a transition to ENSO-neutral during the late spring or early summer (Fig. 6). The forecasters are in agreement with the model consensus, though the exact timing of the transition is difficult to predict. A strong El Niño is expected to gradually weaken through spring 2016, and to transition to ENSO-neutral during late spring or early summer (click CPC/IRI consensus forecast for the chance of each outcome for each 3-month period).

El Niño has already produced significant global impacts and is expected to affect temperature and precipitation patterns across the United States during the upcoming months (the 3-month seasonal outlook will be updated on Thursday January 21st). The seasonal outlooks for January - March indicate an increased likelihood of above-median precipitation across the southern tier of the United States, and below-median precipitation over the northern tier of the United States. Above-average temperatures are favored in the West and northern half of the country with below-average temperatures favored in the southern Plains and along the Gulf Coast.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6842 Postby Dean_175 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:50 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Dean_175 wrote:Another big WWB coming:


At this stage of the Nino (climo weakening) would a WWB cause an OKW? Or is it something reactionary at the surface?


Probably. The layer of warm water averaged over the Pacific is still pretty deep. So still a lot to work with- probably not just "surface effects". In fact that is one thing that is different about now vs 1998. In January 1998, although the tilt of the thermocline was flat (strong El Nino)- the depth of warm water had diminished significantly from where it was a few months earlier. Right now, the layer of warm water has maintained its thickness. The 28C isotherm extends down to 100m in the central Pacific.

CFS shows an increase in east Pacific subsurface anomalies by February-which would seem to indicate a KW. If you noticed- CFS also increased (slightly) its projected forecast for nino34 --with most recent ensemble members warmer than the oldest; which has been something we have seen with all of the major WWBs during this El Nino. Not only that but 20C isotherm depth and sea level anomalies have become zero to slightly positive in the central Pacific--where they were previously negative at the end of December.

We may not see a huge rise in depth/height anomalies in the central Pacific due to the presence of negative feedback (reflection of Rossby waves from western boundary and negative depth anomalies in the west) that wasn't there several months ago before the peak. But this will probably change the depth/height anomalies from what they would otherwise be.

I don't think we will see any real warming but we may see slower cooling than would otherwise occur- perhaps enough to ensure that the ONI for DJF comes in at 2.0-2.1C
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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:El Nino until late Spring/early Summer

#6843 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:10 pm

It would be crazy if we see a 3 peat El-Nino.
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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:El Nino until late Spring/early Summer

#6844 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:33 pm

ECMWF January update shows a pretty big dip to Neutral by early Summer and La Nina after that time.

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Re: ENSO: CPC January update:El Nino until late Spring/early Summer

#6845 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Looks like with the WWB we might hold steady at 2.6C but could go back up to 2.7 due to it but the ENSO 1\2 seems to be dropping as well as the 4 region and it seems as though some of the +anomalies are a little less positive in the EPAC MDR which is something to watch for if it continues farther I will go more liberal on my forecast numbers in the contest in a few months

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6846 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:33 am

Held steady at 2.6C this week, nino 3 nudged up and other two regions cooled. We may get another >2C after NDJ, maybe even DJF
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6847 Postby Dean_175 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:34 am

Holds steady at 2.6 this week.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6848 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:38 am

Dean_175 wrote:Holds steady at 2.6 this week.


There's definitely a downwelling of warm waters in the central Pacific. The cold pool in the west is not that impressive compared to the big switches. Not too crazy to think we may not see the official end until July?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6849 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:40 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Dean_175 wrote:Holds steady at 2.6 this week.


There's definitely a downwelling of warm waters in the central Pacific. The cold pool in the west is not that impressive compared to the big switches. Not too crazy to think we may not see the official end until July?


Or maybe beyond July?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6850 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:34 am

CPC weekly update has Nino 3.4 remaining at +2.6C.

http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analys ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6851 Postby Alyono » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:23 am

will we simply remain in el niño through the remainder of the year?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6852 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:27 am

According to the latest subsurface graphic,the cold area is only advancing slowly eastward so it seems El Nino will not go away as fast as some models show.We will see down the road what occurs.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6853 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:25 pm

The plume of ENSO models in their mid-January update have El Nino weakening in the next few months and going away by the Summer to get to Neutral or La Nina.Let's see what transpires in the next few months.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6854 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:22 pm

Down to +2.5C at CPC 1/25/16 update.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6855 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:21 pm

Is very interesting that CFSv2 forecast does not go to La Nina nor Neutral. (Barely) I think we may have to wait a few weeks to see how this model and others do with their forecasts.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6856 Postby Ntxw » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:14 pm

cycloneye wrote:Is very interesting that CFSv2 forecast does not go to La Nina nor Neutral. (Barely) I think we may have to wait a few weeks to see how this model and others do with their forecasts.

http://i.imgur.com/lGEXXaL.gif


Especially if the +PDO holds strong. It will be resisting the Nina if one comes. 1982-1983 NIno was very +PDO thus only resulted in a neutral to weak Nina the following year. it would be crazy since we had gone on an El Nino (and a very strong Nino even longer) drought, and then maybe go back to back to back Nino events. Though right now a third consecutive nino would be unlikely.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6857 Postby xironman » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:22 am

Certainly will be more clear after April

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6858 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:33 am

Remains at +2.5C at Nino 3.4 on this weekly CPC update of 2/1/16.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#6859 Postby cycloneye » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:43 am

BoM is more quicker than CPC on weakening El Nino and is at +2.1C while CPC is at +2.5C.Which is right is the question.

Further easing of El Niño

Issued on 2 February 2016 | Product Code IDCKGEWW00

El Niño remains strong, but continues its gradual decline. Climate models suggest a return to neutral levels in the second quarter of 2016.

Close to the equator, the surface of the Pacific Ocean has now cooled by 0.5 °C since the El Niño peaked in late 2015. Below the ocean surface, cooler than average waters now extend into the central tropical Pacific Ocean. In the atmosphere, trade winds have recently returned to near-normal levels in the central and eastern Pacific, although the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) has been strongly negative in recent weeks. During Australia's northern wet season, it is not unusual to see big fluctuations in the SOI due to the passage of tropical systems, and hence its value may not be representative of the overall ENSO state.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6860 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:24 am

Jan ssta is 2.6C. Thats higher than October which means its possible NDJ could be higher than OND 2.3C and set a new record. Official ONI for NDJ isnt out yet but should any day now.

CFSv2 is predicting another big WWB in late Feb. Lets see if that is real.
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