Tropical Wave about to emerge West Africa (Is Invest 92L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#161 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:28 pm

That's ridiculous nearly at 20N its bound to recurve.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#162 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:29 pm

Passes 50W.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#163 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:29 pm

99L is stuck near Fl/Ga for nearly 2 days. Could create the weakness for this wave to start turning north soon

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#164 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:30 pm

Models (climate, global, and forecasts) are consistently building in a ridge on the east coast during week two. With the 0Z GFS, I'm not sure what is there to recurve it.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#165 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:31 pm

Insane that it gets to near PR from Africa at that latitude.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#166 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:32 pm

The question is what effects has 99L at this point.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#167 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:32 pm

RL3AO wrote:Models (climate, global, and forecasts) are consistently building in a ridge on the east coast during week two. With the 0Z GFS, I'm not sure what is there to recurve it.


99L
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#168 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:32 pm

SFLcane wrote:Insane that it gets to near PR from Africa at that latitude.


Yep, but the large scale environment supports it happening. A strong N ATL trough + Gaston will support an intensifying ridge downstream, which just happens to be right where this wave is gonna form.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#169 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:32 pm

There is always a first SFLcane
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#170 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Models (climate, global, and forecasts) are consistently building in a ridge on the east coast during week two. With the 0Z GFS, I'm not sure what is there to recurve it.


99L


Exactly. This is why the wave turned north on the 18z run


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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#171 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Models (climate, global, and forecasts) are consistently building in a ridge on the east coast during week two. With the 0Z GFS, I'm not sure what is there to recurve it.


99L


Yes, but synoptic and global scale 500 mb forecasts are very skillful through 5 days and skillful through 8 days. I have a lot more trust in them being right about the ridging than I am them handling mesoscale processes that impacted 99L (plus land)
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#172 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:36 pm

Almost near the Leewards.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#173 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:37 pm

Siker wrote:
chaser1 wrote:Siker, I fully agree with your point but then if I were writing the TWO and realized that (as an example) a tropical wave would take "4 days" to reach the coast, that there'd be little reason for me to more than mention it and perhaps tag it with a 10% or 20% chance of development. That's basically because I know it wont develop over land and how great could the chances be of it developing in that final 24 hours of the present 5 day outlook?


It's really just about model output at that point weighted against climatology. For 25L, our three most reliable cyclogenesis models (Euro, UKMET, GFS) all show it developing within a 5 day period, but it's still only two days of available time over water.

I think we're on the same page. :)


Of course :wink:

It'll be interesting to actually see if this Pouch will finally live up to the models (intensity wise). Gaston looked like it was going to be some highlight of a storm, but just never quite lived up to its potential. I'm beginning to think that the MJO after all might be playing a larger role in the Atlantic's underperformance
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#174 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:38 pm

Should make for some beautiful satellite eye candy.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#175 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:39 pm

Luis! :eek:
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#176 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:40 pm

Stronger than 12z run.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#177 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:41 pm

99L should great a weakness there we shall see
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#178 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:42 pm

Watch out PR omg!!

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#179 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:42 pm

SFLcane wrote:Luis! :eek:


Is really worrisom.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 25L)

#180 Postby LarryWx » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:43 pm

Yep, 99L could end up saving the CONUS from a hit from Pouch 25L if it were to linger long enough near the SE US via a weakness associated with it causing it to recurve. I'm not yet sure if that will happen on this 0Z GFS run, however.
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