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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#721 Postby tpr1967 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:51 am

Dean4Storms wrote:Still looks very tilted with height. The MLC is displaced NNE of what seems to be a suspect LLC but elongated still trying to form. Don't know if NHC can pull the trigger on this quite yet.



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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#722 Postby GlennOBX » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:52 am

cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB


Can you "decode" this for the uninitiated? I get the lat and long, but other than that...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#723 Postby Fego » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:53 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#724 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:53 am

GlennOBX wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB


Can you "decode" this for the uninitiated? I get the lat and long, but other than that...


The 40 is winds at kts 1008 is the pressure and DB is disturbance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#725 Postby terstorm1012 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:54 am

GlennOBX wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB


Can you "decode" this for the uninitiated? I get the lat and long, but other than that...


it's got tropical storm force winds (40 knts) but isn't organized enough to be named. 1008 is the pressure in millibars. I expect this will get a name later today, if not tomorrow. It's got to slow down and organize first.

at least I think I have that right!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#726 Postby CourierPR » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:55 am

GlennOBX wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB


Can you "decode" this for the uninitiated? I get the lat and long, but other than that...


Is that 40 kt winds and 1008 millibars pressure?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#727 Postby GlennOBX » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:57 am

cycloneye wrote:
GlennOBX wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB


Can you "decode" this for the uninitiated? I get the lat and long, but other than that...


The 40 is winds at kts 1008 is the pressure and DB is disturbance.


So, this is current position? The "best track" always makes me think it's a prediction of where it's headed. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#728 Postby abajan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:03 am

cycloneye wrote:12z Best Track:

AL, 97, 2016092812, , BEST, 0, 132N, 598W, 40, 1008, DB

Location seems about right, because whereas the low clouds weren't moving at all earlier this morning, they're now clearly drifting from the south.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#729 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:04 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#730 Postby alienstorm » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:08 am

Recon not finding any LLC broad and diffuse circulation. Strong winds but pressure still high and no LLC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#731 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:10 am

OK, I take back my earlier comment that it is ramping up.
Convection is far removed from the wave axis.
I am going back with the idea that this slips underneath the forecasted Cut-Off Low's Trough.
I'll post something more technical on that idea later today on why I think it will likely miss the recurve and likely RI once it gets past the trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#732 Postby Hamanard » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:17 am

alienstorm wrote:Recon not finding any LLC broad and diffuse circulation. Strong winds but pressure still high and no LLC


I believe the higher pressure stems from a relative higher pressure environment around the system. Hence why winds don't exactly correlate to the systems relative higher pressure.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#733 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:17 am

Yikes Peak 10-second Wind: 54 kt at 101°
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#734 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:19 am

GCANE wrote:OK, I take back my earlier comment that it is ramping up.
Convection is far removed from the wave axis.
I am going back with the idea that this slips underneath the forecasted Cut-Off Low's Trough.
I'll post something more technical on that idea later today on why I think it will likely miss the recurve and likely RI once it gets past the trough.


Most models don't really develop this into a TS until early Thursday morning. Once this gets going it will likely organize fairly quickly if shear is favorable as models indicate.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#735 Postby centuryv58 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:19 am

GCANE wrote:OK, I take back my earlier comment that it is ramping up.
Convection is far removed from the wave axis.
I am going back with the idea that this slips underneath the forecasted Cut-Off Low's Trough.
I'll post something more technical on that idea later today on why I think it will likely miss the recurve and likely RI once it gets past the trough.


Hope your prediction does not pan out. No offense though. :(
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#736 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:23 am

cycloneye wrote:Yikes Peak 10-second Wind: 54 kt at 101°


I'm 50/50 with an upgrade even though they have not found a well defined LLC, IMO.
In another words I wouldn't be surprised either way :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#737 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:26 am

models have done a horrible job this year of over developing storms to early.........we shall see when this develops
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#738 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:26 am

That high wind measurement was at 14.7N 60.0W, right underneath a strong cell.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#739 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:26 am

NDG wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Yikes Peak 10-second Wind: 54 kt at 101°


I'm 50/50 with an upgrade even though they have not found a well defined LLC, IMO.
In another words I wouldn't be surprised either way :lol:


they arent going to upgrade it without a defined llc..winds could be 100 knots and without that closed llc it isnt happening..furthermore. they dont want to declare something not well defined only for it to fall apart in 6 hours at the next advisory...patience folks..we know generally what is going to happen the next 5 days
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#740 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:27 am

Evemn more strong winds found.Is good reading uncontaminated.

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