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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#421 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:20 am

Man, cold weather lovers rolled 7s on that latest run. In the long range past the 19th, all it will take is another 1045 plus with the snow pack to our north and it will be lights out for warm weather for a while.

CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#422 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:27 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Man, cold weather lovers rolled 7s on that latest run. In the long range past the 19th, all it will take is another 1045 plus with the snow pack to our north and it will be lights out for warm weather for a while.

CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!


We all deserve it after last winter. I never want to experience another Super El Nino winter again :lol:. 1982, 1997, and 2015 were all duds...We seem to lose when we get into strong or super anything with ENSO Nino or Nina...

I'm hoping this makeshift "weak Nina" warms through winter. That would benefit us in February. If you're going by SST's the temps for the Nina seem to be collapsing the past few weeks.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#423 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:33 am

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ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Man, cold weather lovers rolled 7s on that latest run. In the long range past the 19th, all it will take is another 1045 plus with the snow pack to our north and it will be lights out for warm weather for a while.

CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!


We all deserve it after last winter.



We most definitely do...and just think its only December 2nd... DFW's snowiest time isn't even close!

Last winter's thread only managed 184 pages... we're 2 days into this one and already 22 pages. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#424 Postby Rgv20 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:58 am

0zGFS Ensemble Member 12....forecast frozen precipitation for a portion of South Texas Friday morning! I will take it and run with it! :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#425 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:24 am

Euro still has DFW hitting the 60s Wednesday before the bottom drops. A little rain falls in the evening.

It's colder at 6z Thursday than last run.

Edit" It's warmer on Thursday... is below freezing in the morning but warms into the upper 30s.
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A couple degrees warmer Friday morning... closer to 26-27 than 23-24 last run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#426 Postby TexasF6 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:25 am

The Crazy Canadian is starting to see freezing rain chances for the Hill Country next week. The trend is our friend right? If the cold air outpaces the moisture and we get overrunning and our return of Winter Wx? Anyone else seeing trends for Winter Wx next week? I also noticed Rgv20 there was an upspring of moisture from your region on one run, but for the following week? I want Champ The Charger fired up and ready to go!!!! ***06Z GFS has a Winter Storm in Central Texas Next Friday*** :froze: 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#427 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:07 am

Getting rather active on the radar out there.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#428 Postby dhweather » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:06 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Man, cold weather lovers rolled 7s on that latest run. In the long range past the 19th, all it will take is another 1045 plus with the snow pack to our north and it will be lights out for warm weather for a while.

CAT 5 IN THE GULF!!!


Beautiful! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#429 Postby dhweather » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:09 am

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:GFS has some wintry mischief at 300 hours around DFW

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252hrs :lol:

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Only two weeks away! :lol:


Beats the graveyard dead pattern we had August-October.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#430 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:11 am

TexasF6 wrote:The Crazy Canadian is starting to see freezing rain chances for the Hill Country next week. The trend is our friend right? If the cold air outpaces the moisture and we get overrunning and our return of Winter Wx? Anyone else seeing trends for Winter Wx next week? I also noticed Rgv20 there was an upspring of moisture from your region on one run, but for the following week? I want Champ The Charger fired up and ready to go!!!! ***06Z GFS has a Winter Storm in Central Texas Next Friday*** :froze: 8-)

Been expecting to start seeing the potential for winter weather show up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#431 Postby Portastorm » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:21 am

TexasF6 wrote:The Crazy Canadian is starting to see freezing rain chances for the Hill Country next week. The trend is our friend right? If the cold air outpaces the moisture and we get overrunning and our return of Winter Wx? Anyone else seeing trends for Winter Wx next week? I also noticed Rgv20 there was an upspring of moisture from your region on one run, but for the following week? I want Champ The Charger fired up and ready to go!!!! ***06Z GFS has a Winter Storm in Central Texas Next Friday*** :froze: 8-)


It's called the Crazy Canadian for a reason you know. :P

Nevertheless, Champ is getting a weekend once-over and will be ready for whatever wintry goodness Mother Nature brings.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#432 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:34 am

Portastorm wrote:It's called the Crazy Canadian for a reason you know. :P

Nevertheless, Champ is getting a weekend once-over and will be ready for whatever wintry goodness Mother Nature brings.


Oh, those PWC Grey Goose swelling mets better not be drinking and driving on the chase this week for wintry conditions
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#433 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:37 am

Ntxw wrote:
Portastorm wrote:It's called the Crazy Canadian for a reason you know. :P

Nevertheless, Champ is getting a weekend once-over and will be ready for whatever wintry goodness Mother Nature brings.


Oh, those PWC Grey Goose swelling mets better not be drinking and driving on the chase this week for wintry conditions
What is the timing of the cold front now?
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#434 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:39 am

starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Portastorm wrote:It's called the Crazy Canadian for a reason you know. :P

Nevertheless, Champ is getting a weekend once-over and will be ready for whatever wintry goodness Mother Nature brings.


Oh, those PWC Grey Goose swelling mets better not be drinking and driving on the chase this week for wintry conditions
What is the timing of the cold front now?


Model consensus is Tuesday night/Weds morning. Of course with these types of fronts, it may beat the models on timing as cold, dense air has little to no resistance from the North Pole to Texas. Nature of the Great Plains being flat.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#435 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:41 am

Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Oh, those PWC Grey Goose swelling mets better not be drinking and driving on the chase this week for wintry conditions
What is the timing of the cold front now?


Model consensus is Tuesday night/Weds morning. Of course with these types of fronts, it may beat the models on timing as cold, dense air has little to no resistance from the North Pole to Texas. Nature of the Great Plains being flat.

Sometimes they underestimate how cold the temps will be.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#436 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:18 am

Can someone explain why recent model runs are showing the heart of the cold heading east with a -PNA? Will the SE ridge really break down that much?
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#437 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:21 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Can someone explain why recent model runs are showing the heart of the cold heading east with a -PNA? Will the SE ridge really break down that much?
I don't know why they are saying that?
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#438 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:26 am

Models look interesting with precip around the front on Wed. They already show some falling in borderline freezing air and if the trend continues Wed afternoon and evening could get interesting.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#439 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:26 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Can someone explain why recent model runs are showing the heart of the cold heading east with a -PNA? Will the SE ridge really break down that much?


Well, we will see if the models back off with the cold for the Southeast U.S. the next couple of days. However, it seems as if the Southeast U.S. ridge is retreating, therefore the NAO may be trending negative, at least through the middle of this month.

Initially, I was like you in thinking that the Southeast ridge was establishing itself in the guidance going back to last week. But, apparently that has changed.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#440 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Can someone explain why recent model runs are showing the heart of the cold heading east with a -PNA? Will the SE ridge really break down that much?


What do you mean? It's two paths as typically it usually does. One chunk slides down the slopes of the Rockies with high pressure into Mexico while another chunk coils into cyclogenesis ahead of it. It's your typical outbreak for central and eastern north america. Sometimes cyclogenesis to the northeast is so strong it will tug the air mass to the east for a glancing blow but if the HP influence is stronger it's going due south mostly.

Speaking of Rockies slopes. It always fascinates me how cold, dense air travels and trajectory of cold high domes. Models long range always wants to dig them down into the peaks of the Rockies but nearly every time they go around and ooze down the eastern slopes of the great wall that is the Rocky mts. Path of least resistance.

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