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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#41 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:51 pm

Model comparisons @ 240hrs. GFS, GFS-Parallel, and ECMWF:

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#42 Postby USTropics » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:54 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Basically sums up the GFS.

 https://twitter.com/HurricaneCity/status/883089699723718656




To be fair, you could basically say that for every model if we're using the span of 10 years :P

As for this AOI, I wouldn't even really consider intensity forecasts at this point. Overall trends are for a potent wave to cross the Windward/Leeward islands in about 7-8 days.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#43 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Intensifying and headed for gulf Coast
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#44 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:57 pm

The 18z GFS looks very similar to Hurricane Dennis(2005), except it goes over Hispaniola.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#45 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:58 pm

00z will be into CA.. :spam:
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#46 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:58 pm

Major hurricane into northwest Florida
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#47 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:06 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Major hurricane into northwest Florida

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2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#48 Postby MetroMike » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:58 pm

18Z GFS delays development of a TC just East of the islands runs it up eventually up the West Coast of Florida this time as a 980mb TC around July 21.
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Re: 2017 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#49 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:53 pm

MetroMike wrote:18Z GFS delays development of a TC just East of the islands runs it up eventually up the West Coast of Florida this time as a 980mb TC around July 21.


Should trust the ECMWF, and until that model shows it the GFS is not believable. ECMWF has a weak TD at best throughout its run. It did have a TS a few runs ago I believe.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#50 Postby Florida1118 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:36 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
MetroMike wrote:18Z GFS delays development of a TC just East of the islands runs it up eventually up the West Coast of Florida this time as a 980mb TC around July 21.


Should trust the ECMWF, and until that model shows it the GFS is not believable. ECMWF has a weak TD at best throughout its run. It did have a TS a few runs ago I believe.

I feel like we've discussed this over and over; why is there this need to trash a particular model or take model guidance as an absolute? Model guidance is just that - guidance. Even if the Euro happened to show a hurricane tonight, it doesn't make the scenario of a strong hurricane in the Caribbean next week suddenly a believable event, especially 10 days out. The European does not have that much of a skill lead on the GFS, and it has been fooled plenty of times. The overall guidance suggests a tropical cyclone is possible in the area in the next week, perhaps it would be better to leave it at then keep playing the model superiority game.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#51 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:46 pm

Big change:

12z Euro Parallel down to 996mb and it's very very south, makes a landfall over SA at one point.

Let's see if the 00z Euro follows suit.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#52 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:48 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Big change:

12z Euro Parallel down to 996mb and it's very very south, makes a landfall over SA at one point.

Let's see if the 00z Euro follows suit.


That is big news.Do you have a graphic?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#53 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:58 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Big change:

12z Euro Parallel down to 996mb and it's very very south, makes a landfall over SA at one point.

Let's see if the 00z Euro follows suit.


That is big news.Do you have a graphic?


Can't post it unfortunately. But I'll draw a graphic later. But this thing is hugging the SA coast.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#54 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:25 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Big change:

12z Euro Parallel down to 996mb and it's very very south, makes a landfall over SA at one point.

Let's see if the 00z Euro follows suit.


That is big news.Do you have a graphic?

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#55 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:30 pm

Is this the Euro taking over in the next few weeks? If so what kind of environment does it paint for this potential system?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#56 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm

Oh boy.A rare landfall for ABC islands.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#57 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:35 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Is this the Euro taking over in the next few weeks? If so what kind of environment does it paint for this potential system?

Yes, in 5 days. The parallel shows an anticyclone over the eastern Caribbean, so shear isn't an issue. Biggest impediment would be proximity to South America.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#58 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:41 pm

cycloneye wrote:Oh boy.A rare landfall for ABC islands.

Didn't Bret make landfall there recently?
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#59 Postby Alyono » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:44 pm

cycloneye wrote:Oh boy.A rare landfall for ABC islands.


they NARROWLY missed a cat 5 last year
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave in Western Africa

#60 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:45 pm

00z GFS remaining quite vigorous with the wave in question once it reaches the Caribbean.

JMO, likely convective feedback. The GFS did the same exact thing with TD 4.
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