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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5421 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:59 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5422 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:59 am

USTropics wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:So, if I am not mistaken, looking at the 6Z , Cuba may have two landfalls from Irma. It looks as if Irma landfall on Eastern Cuba and emerges briefly into the Caribbean, and then comes back north to crossthe central Cuba region, then moves across Key West.


It's really close, but looks like it's just one landfall in Cuba:

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Deepening over land is out of the normal realms,core needs water for fuel.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5423 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:00 am

HWRF now crosses Cuba and gets into the Caribbean

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5424 Postby Happy Pelican » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:02 am

Florida needs to definitely start making preps now but (again, MY OPINION) I think once Irma begins her turn north, we'll see models begin an easterly trend and perhaps have a "Donna" like path on our hands.

I know tensions are running high and we're all worried about what Irma's next move so let's keep leaning on each other for support and remain respectful towards one another. :flag:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5425 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:07 am

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:
Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
Well let me remind you what we just saw last week with Harvey. Harvey's inner core remarkably stayed well iintact long after landfall well inland across South Texss. So I wouldn't get too comfortable thinking that.


Harvey had a clear track in the GOM with hundreds of miles too reform a core, ,The track on that GFS run is nothing alike to harvey.

Some cores crash very quick.


All tropical cyclones are not alike. , My point to you was only to bring the example Harvey showed us all, that you can not automatically assume that the inner core would rapidly get disrupted. Circumstances dictate how that would evolve. Hugo 's inner core stayed well intact hundreds of miles inland after making landfall in Charleston, SC, causing significant damage in Charlotte. NC and across the NC Piedmont.

We are just having a friendly discussion, and I appreciate it this morning.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5426 Postby seahawkjd » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:07 am



What model is EPS?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5427 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:10 am

seahawkjd wrote:


What model is EPS?

European ensembles.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5428 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:11 am

seahawkjd wrote:


What model is EPS?

Euro ensembles
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5429 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:11 am

seahawkjd wrote:
What model is EPS?


EURO ensembles.

I'll go ahead and edit my post to ask (not you in particular, Seahawk):

What would cause the westward movement into the northern Cuba coast? UKMET was one of the first to sniff that out.

Also hard to buy the intensity on that 06z GFS run... even if the land is flat over that part of Cuba Id imagine there would be some disruption. Rather than the 00z run where it hugs the coast.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5430 Postby seahawkjd » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:11 am

robbielyn wrote:
seahawkjd wrote:


What model is EPS?

European ensembles.


So was that for the upcoming Euro run or from the one that ran last night? Thanks for the answers.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5431 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:14 am


I think this solution of Carolina landfall makes climatological sense. I think euro will win this one. I'm banking on it. I live on the west coast of Florida.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5432 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:16 am

seahawkjd wrote:
robbielyn wrote:
seahawkjd wrote:
What model is EPS?

European ensembles.


So was that for the upcoming Euro run or from the one that ran last night? Thanks for the answers.

this morning's.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5433 Postby Vdogg » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:18 am

seahawkjd wrote:
robbielyn wrote:
seahawkjd wrote:
What model is EPS?

European ensembles.


So was that for the upcoming Euro run or from the one that ran last night? Thanks for the answers.

00Z, the one that ran this morning.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5434 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:18 am

It's also looking like the storm has ceased the southerly component of her movement (or is about to), according to recon data. That is key for tracks closer to the islands.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5435 Postby caneman » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:20 am

robbielyn wrote:

I think this solution of Carolina landfall makes climatological sense. I think euro will win this one. I'm banking on it. I live on the west coast of Florida.


UKMET and TVCN have been most accurate thus far long range. If you're going to bank on anything in the 6 to 7 day range, I'd bank on those. Good or bad. Anyone have the current spaghetti models they can share? Thanks
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5436 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:23 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5437 Postby USTropics » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:23 am

caneman wrote:
robbielyn wrote:
tolakram wrote:

I think this solution of Carolina landfall makes climatological sense. I think euro will win this one. I'm banking on it. I live on the west coast of Florida.


UKMET and TVCN have been most accurate thus far long range. If you're going to bank on anything in the 6 to 7 day range, I'd bank on those. Good or bad. Anyone have the current spaghetti models they can share? Thanks


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5438 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:25 am

No reason not to think W model shifts won't continue until we get a pushback run, then we know where the uncertainty spot is and models have some disagreement... I suspect the ultimate track will be a little more smooth than a right angle turn... JMHO
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5439 Postby robbielyn » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:26 am

caneman wrote:
robbielyn wrote:

I think this solution of Carolina landfall makes climatological sense. I think euro will win this one. I'm banking on it. I live on the west coast of Florida.


UKMET and TVCN have been most accurate thus far long range. If you're going to bank on anything in the 6 to 7 day range, I'd bank on those. Good or bad. Anyone have the current spaghetti models they can share? Thanks

that's fine tcvn has south florida to Carolina landfall. not as scary for us nw of Tampa. I'm very vigilantly monitoring this but being 7 days out and living here for most of my life, I'm not freaking out just yet. :D
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#5440 Postby CourierPR » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:27 am

AdamFirst wrote:It's also looking like the storm has ceased the southerly component of her movement (or is about to), according to recon data. That is key for tracks closer to the islands.


Recon heading was WSW at 255 degrees.
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