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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1361 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:24 am

South Texas Storms wrote:Big changes showing up in the 12z models with our trough in the Pacific. We'll see if it makes a difference in regards to our possible cold weather in the long range.


I see that ... the trough doesn't look as strong and deep and, thus, the NE Pacific ridge is not as pumped as it was in previous runs. Yeah, that could definitely moderate the wintry extreme scenarios of the last few GFS runs for us. Let's see how this one unfolds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1362 Postby spencer817 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:29 am

Portastorm wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Big changes showing up in the 12z models with our trough in the Pacific. We'll see if it makes a difference in regards to our possible cold weather in the long range.


I see that ... the trough doesn't look as strong and deep and, thus, the NE Pacific ridge is not as pumped as it was in previous runs. Yeah, that could definitely moderate the wintry extreme scenarios of the last few GFS runs for us. Let's see how this one unfolds.


The storm doesnt even look to come this way now, of course....
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1363 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:30 am

Ridge just takes place later... Hour 204, it starts its ramp up into Alaska.

Front through the panhandle at 216.

Yeah, there it is at 216... difference in this operational is the look of the North Atlantic and SE
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1364 Postby spencer817 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:32 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Ridge just takes place later... Hour 204, it starts its ramp up into Alaska.

Front through the panhandle at 216.


I feel like either this is a rogue run, or all the others were just messing with our emotions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1365 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:33 am

If this kind of cold verifies, we are going to have a lot of pipe-busting issues on our hands. :eek:
My outside hose bib freezes even with a faucet cover and towels. It is within the outside wall of the house. Looks like I may need to let it drip the whole time while I am out of town on Christmas to the 27th.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1366 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:36 am

spencer817 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Ridge just takes place later... Hour 204, it starts its ramp up into Alaska.

Front through the panhandle at 216.


I feel like either this is a rogue run, or all the others were just messing with our emotions.


Actually its shaping up to be a lot like the previous runs. Timing is going to change run to run.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1367 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 am

Trough is much more progressive like the Canadian on the 12z GFS. Don't think we'll see much in the way of frozen precip chances with the storm system in about 10 days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1368 Postby ronyan » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 am

EPO forecast to be strongly negative along with the PNA.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1369 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:39 am

Front through Dallas and Houston by evening time on Friday... same timing as before.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1370 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:41 am

South Texas Storms wrote:Trough is much more progressive like the Canadian on the 12z GFS. Don't think we'll see much in the way of frozen precip chances with the storm system in about 10 days.


Because of one operational run 10 days out ???
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1371 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:41 am

Still chilly, but warmer compared to previous runs. No freeze down to the coast. GFS shows some light snow possible in Houston before the precip ends next Saturday morning.

No leftover energy hanging back in the SW US, so no widespread ice this run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1372 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:42 am

orangeblood wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Trough is much more progressive like the Canadian on the 12z GFS. Don't think we'll see much in the way of frozen precip chances with the storm system in about 10 days.


Because of one operational run 10 days out ???


I never said that. Just saying this run of the GFS wouldn't show much in the way of ice or snow here in the extended. The threat is still there based on the ensembles and many previous runs.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1373 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:43 am

orangeblood wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Trough is much more progressive like the Canadian on the 12z GFS. Don't think we'll see much in the way of frozen precip chances with the storm system in about 10 days.


Because of one operational run 10 days out ???


:lol:

People love to hedge with their emotions.

Actually, this run doesn't bother me at all. Favorable UA pattern is still there and a SE ridge forming on the 23rd/24th.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1374 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:45 am

South Texas Storms wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Trough is much more progressive like the Canadian on the 12z GFS. Don't think we'll see much in the way of frozen precip chances with the storm system in about 10 days.


Because of one operational run 10 days out ???


I never said that. Just saying this run of the GFS wouldn't show much in the way of ice or snow here in the extended. The threat is still there based on the ensembles and many previous runs.


Oh gotcha, it came across as a much more definitive statement/conclusion
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1375 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:46 am

ronyan wrote:EPO forecast to be strongly negative along with the PNA.

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What does that mean??? Sorry but some of us don't understand what the heck you just said.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1376 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:46 am

Christmas Morning

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1377 Postby Theepicman116 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:47 am

Edit: I take that back! We do have ice and a bit of snow. Image

And the freezing rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1378 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:47 am

orangeblood wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Because of one operational run 10 days out ???


I never said that. Just saying this run of the GFS wouldn't show much in the way of ice or snow here in the extended. The threat is still there based on the ensembles and many previous runs.


Oh gotcha, it came across as a much more definitive statement/conclusion


Yeah my bad. I should've said that was based on this run of the GFS. Not that I agree with it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1379 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:47 am

sphelps8681 wrote:
ronyan wrote:EPO forecast to be strongly negative along with the PNA.

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What does that mean??? Sorry but some of us don't understand what the heck you just said.



A strongly negative EPO is a key ingredient for Texas seeing cold air.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1380 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:48 am

Theepicman116 wrote:I’m glad there isn’t any ice on this run but sad that there isn’t any snow. Hopefully the next run will produce some snow!



Highly doubtful we would see any snow out of this. At best, sleet.
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