ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
The faster than expected spin up could likely mean a bend more to the north than current forecast track.
If it hangs thru the ULL interaction, could see a Bahamas TC.
Time to get down with some serious model homework,
If it hangs thru the ULL interaction, could see a Bahamas TC.
Time to get down with some serious model homework,
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
TXNT26 KNES 051829
TCSNTL
CCA
A. 02L (NONAME)
B. 05/1745Z
C. 10.2N
D. 42.2W
E. THREE/GOES-E
F. T3.0/3.0/D1.0/24HRS
G. IR/EIR/VIS
H. REMARKS...CORRECTED FOR INTENSITY. CONVECTION WRAPS .7 ON LOG10
SPIRAL FOR A DT OF 3.0. MET=2.5 AND PT=3.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...KIM
TCSNTL
CCA
A. 02L (NONAME)
B. 05/1745Z
C. 10.2N
D. 42.2W
E. THREE/GOES-E
F. T3.0/3.0/D1.0/24HRS
G. IR/EIR/VIS
H. REMARKS...CORRECTED FOR INTENSITY. CONVECTION WRAPS .7 ON LOG10
SPIRAL FOR A DT OF 3.0. MET=2.5 AND PT=3.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...KIM
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
I think the most impressive part about Beryl's formation and intensification is that SSTs are running between 25–26 C. An impressive little TC in the MDR:


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Will this be still another Beryl that isn't retired? Beryl goes back to 1982 and this is the 7th one.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
This is interesting, back in 1995 when we got hit with Marilyn in the USVI (St. Thomas), Bertha followed, on July 9th of 1996. Marilyn was the last serious hurricane to hit the USVI prior to Irma and Maria last year, and it is rather ironic that we have the "B" storm following in July and will most likely be in this area on July 9th. Can we please catch a break??? Puerto Rico isn't the only island suffering to recover from last year.
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GCANE wrote:The faster than expected spin up could likely mean a bend more to the north than current forecast track.
If it hangs thru the ULL interaction, could see a Bahamas TC.
Time to get down with some serious model homework,
this is going well south of the guidance. Storms on the leading edge of SAL outbreak always end up south of guidance
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
depending on which SST map you look at. temps are 26 to 27c or 25 to 26c.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm
Ian2401 wrote:It really seems like the NHC has been dropping the ball on this one. Likely has been a TC since yesterday, and now it seems the current wind estimate at 40mph is far too low.
There is no evidence this is true and I do not agree they have dropped the ball. Let's ALL share opinions on Beryl but leave unnecessary comments about the NHC out of it please.
When this gets closer to the islands there will be recon if needed, otherwise any intensity changes can be done in post analysis since it's not threatening anyone at the moment, in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
Well, Beryl does prove that the MDR won't be dead the entire time like some forecasts implied, even in July there can always be a surprise.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models
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* ATLANTIC 2018 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* BERYL AL022018 07/05/18 18 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 45 50 54 57 60 63 64 63 63 65 68 71 73
V (KT) LAND 45 50 54 57 60 63 64 63 63 65 68 71 73
V (KT) LGEM 45 51 55 58 61 66 69 68 67 DIS DIS DIS DIS
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP N/A N/A N/A N/A
SHEAR (KT) 6 4 2 4 5 11 17 18 21 N/A N/A N/A N/A
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 0 2 2 0 2 -1 -1 2 2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
SHEAR DIR 76 80 58 359 344 290 318 294 284 N/A N/A N/A N/A
SST (C) 25.6 25.3 25.9 26.4 26.5 26.8 26.6 26.6 27.8 N/A N/A N/A N/A
POT. INT. (KT) 111 108 113 118 119 123 122 123 137 N/A N/A N/A N/A
ADJ. POT. INT. 110 106 111 115 117 121 122 125 142 N/A N/A N/A N/A
200 MB T (C) -54.8 -54.8 -55.0 -54.9 -54.6 -55.0 -54.8 -55.0 -55.2 N/A N/A N/A N/A
200 MB VXT (C) -0.3 -0.3 -0.3 -0.2 -0.2 -0.1 -0.2 -0.3 -0.3 N/A N/A N/A N/A
TH_E DEV (C) 3 3 3 3 4 5 6 7 9 N/A N/A N/A N/A
700-500 MB RH 63 63 63 60 58 59 52 48 44 N/A N/A N/A N/A
MODEL VTX (KT) 9 10 10 8 8 8 7 6 5 LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 44 57 63 56 49 43 28 25 24 N/A N/A N/A N/A
200 MB DIV 15 21 8 -11 7 -1 -26 -15 15 N/A N/A N/A N/A
700-850 TADV -4 -5 -6 -6 -3 -1 -2 5 7 N/A N/A N/A N/A
LAND (KM) 1201 1132 1074 1034 998 922 891 762 529 N/A N/A N/A N/A
LAT (DEG N) 10.3 10.7 11.0 11.4 11.7 12.4 13.3 14.2 15.1 N/A N/A N/A N/A
LONG(DEG W) 42.3 43.4 44.5 45.5 46.5 48.7 51.4 54.9 58.9 N/A N/A N/A N/A
STM SPEED (KT) 13 11 11 10 11 12 16 19 20 N/A N/A N/A N/A
HEAT CONTENT 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 2 23 9999 9999 9999 9999
FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):275/ 14 CX,CY: -13/ 1
T-12 MAX WIND: 30 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 538 (MEAN=619)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 11.0 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 43.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 55 KT IN 48 HR): 8.8
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 12. 13.
SST POTENTIAL 0. 1. 2. 2. 4. 5. 7. 10. 12. 13. 13. 14.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 6. 6. 5. 5. 6. 7. 7.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2.
PERSISTENCE 3. 4. 5. 5. 3. 2. 1. 0. -1. -1. -1. -2.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 3. 4.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -1. -1.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 0. -1. -2. -3. -4. -6. -8. -9. -10. -11. -12.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -1. 0. 1.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. -1. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -3. -3. -2. -3.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
RI POTENTIAL 0. 0. 1. 1. 3. 3. 3. 2. 2. 1. 0. 0.
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TOTAL CHANGE 5. 9. 12. 15. 18. 19. 18. 18. 20. 23. 26. 28.
CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 45. LAT, LON: 10.3 42.3
** 2018 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL022018 BERYL 07/05/18 18 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MORE MAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)
Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 15.0 -49.5 to 38.5 0.73 9.8
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 4.1 30.1 to 2.3 0.93 5.5
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 0.0 0.0 to 157.3 0.00 0.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 11.0 36.6 to 2.8 0.76 4.0
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : 0.1 2.9 to -2.9 0.49 2.4
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 45.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.60 1.6
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : 201.6 893.2 to -67.1 0.72 2.7
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 70.5 28.4 to 141.4 0.37 0.3
D200 (10**7s-1) : 8.0 -29.7 to 185.9 0.17 0.1
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 8.3 100.0 to 0.0 0.92 0.3
SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 12% is 2.4 times climatological mean ( 5.0%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 38% is 3.4 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 27% is 4.0 times climatological mean ( 6.7%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 3.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.4%)
Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
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SHIPS-RII: 11.9% 37.6% 26.8% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
Logistic: 9.1% 24.9% 26.8% 16.6% 3.8% 11.4% 1.9% 1.3%
Bayesian: 3.2% 0.7% 5.0% 1.1% 0.7% 1.9% 0.0% 0.0%
Consensus: 8.1% 21.1% 19.5% 5.9% 1.5% 4.4% 0.6% 0.4%
DTOPS: 9.0% 9.0% 4.0% 2.0% 1.0% 1.0% 0.0% 0.0%
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL022018 BERYL 07/05/18 18 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=4 NFAIL=3 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
CONTRIBUTIONS TO ANNULAR INDEX
** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL022018 BERYL 07/05/2018 18 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)
** DSHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST ADJUSTED RELATIVE TO ONSET OF ERC WEAKENING PHASE **
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
>24HR AGO (DSHIPS) 45 50 54 57 60 63 64 63 63 65 68 71 73
18HR AGO 45 44 48 51 54 57 58 57 57 59 62 65 67
12HR AGO 45 42 41 44 47 50 51 50 50 52 55 58 60
6HR AGO 45 39 36 35 38 41 42 41 41 43 46 49 51
NOW CURRENT INTENSITY < 83 KT
IN 6HR INTENSITY IN 6HR < 83 KT
IN 12HR INTENSITY IN 12HR < 83 KT
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Re: ATL: TWO - Advisories
Tropical Storm Beryl Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022018
230 PM AST Thu Jul 05 2018
...DEPRESSION BECOMES TROPICAL STORM BERYL...
Satellite imagery indicates that the tropical depression has
strengthened and is now Tropical Storm Beryl. Maximum sustained
winds are estimated to be 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts. An
updated intensity forecast will be provided with the 500 PM AST
(2100 UTC) advisory.
SUMMARY OF 230 PM AST...1830 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...10.3N 42.3W
ABOUT 1330 MI...2140 KM ESE OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB...29.74 INCHES
$$
Forecaster Brennan/Berg
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022018
230 PM AST Thu Jul 05 2018
...DEPRESSION BECOMES TROPICAL STORM BERYL...
Satellite imagery indicates that the tropical depression has
strengthened and is now Tropical Storm Beryl. Maximum sustained
winds are estimated to be 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts. An
updated intensity forecast will be provided with the 500 PM AST
(2100 UTC) advisory.
SUMMARY OF 230 PM AST...1830 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...10.3N 42.3W
ABOUT 1330 MI...2140 KM ESE OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB...29.74 INCHES
$$
Forecaster Brennan/Berg
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
convection is deeper in all quads around the eye on new microwave pass from an hour ago..


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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
Yea this likely a microcane, based on hints of an eye formation in the latest frames. The kind of storm Dvorak underestimates big time.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm
tolakram wrote:Ian2401 wrote:It really seems like the NHC has been dropping the ball on this one. Likely has been a TC since yesterday, and now it seems the current wind estimate at 40mph is far too low.
There is no evidence this is true and I do not agree they have dropped the ball. Let's ALL share opinions on Beryl but leave unnecessary comments about the NHC out of it please.
When this gets closer to the islands there will be recon if needed, otherwise any intensity changes can be done in post analysis since it's not threatening anyone at the moment, in my opinion.
I'm curious what their reasoning for a conservative estimate is. The overall structure is certainly indicative of a 60-70mph TS trying to become a hurricane. It's possible they don't want to cause panic in the islands especially if this goes poof in a few days once it hits the wall of shear. After last season I'm sure everyone in the islands is watching this system very closely.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
Increasing numbers for TS Beryl 3.0/3.0 meaning sustained winds estimations close to 45 kts given that Dvorak scale.
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
05/1745 UTC 10.2N 42.2W T3.0/3.0 02L
05/1145 UTC 10.1N 40.7W T2.0/2.5 95L
05/0545 UTC 10.3N 39.6W T2.0/2.5 95L
04/2345 UTC 10.6N 38.1W T2.5/2.5 95L
04/1745 UTC 10.4N 36.4W T2.0/2.0 95L
04/1145 UTC 10.2N 34.8W T2.0/2.0 95L
04/0545 UTC 10.1N 33.7W T1.5/1.5 95L
03/2345 UTC 9.4N 31.9W T1.0/1.0 95L
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
05/1745 UTC 10.2N 42.2W T3.0/3.0 02L
05/1145 UTC 10.1N 40.7W T2.0/2.5 95L
05/0545 UTC 10.3N 39.6W T2.0/2.5 95L
04/2345 UTC 10.6N 38.1W T2.5/2.5 95L
04/1745 UTC 10.4N 36.4W T2.0/2.0 95L
04/1145 UTC 10.2N 34.8W T2.0/2.0 95L
04/0545 UTC 10.1N 33.7W T1.5/1.5 95L
03/2345 UTC 9.4N 31.9W T1.0/1.0 95L
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Aric Dunn wrote:convection is deeper in all quads around the eye on new microwave pass from an hour ago..
A completed eyewall, definitely a hurricane.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
Thats a hurricane for sure! A tiny one.
You could drive through that thing in 20 minutes.
You could drive through that thing in 20 minutes.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm
tolakram wrote:Ian2401 wrote:It really seems like the NHC has been dropping the ball on this one. Likely has been a TC since yesterday, and now it seems the current wind estimate at 40mph is far too low.
There is no evidence this is true and I do not agree they have dropped the ball. Let's ALL share opinions on Beryl but leave unnecessary comments about the NHC out of it please.
When this gets closer to the islands there will be recon if needed, otherwise any intensity changes can be done in post analysis since it's not threatening anyone at the moment, in my opinion.
Oh no, that comment was never meant in any sort of malicious way towards the NHC. I have a MASSIVE amount of respect for them and everything they do. I was just pointing out that the NHC has been (in my opinion) overly conservative with this system from the get-go. Apologies if it came off the wrong way.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
100% agree with the comments above, this is making a run at hurricane status today.


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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm
Given that this storm is nowhere near land, the NHC can afford to be conservative and wait to upgrade. They can always change everything in post-analysis.
It's not like they have to play catch-up fast knowing they have to put warnings out...
It's not like they have to play catch-up fast knowing they have to put warnings out...
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