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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Oh, so it's going to be one of those pure horror runs, then. Good thing it's still 174 hours out.
I know it is a model run, but this is like watching a horror movie, especially because of where this is trying to make landfall.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Oh, so it's going to be one of those pure horror runs, then. Good thing it's still 174 hours out.
I know it is a model run, but this is like watching a horror movie, especially because of where this is trying to make landfall.
It just pulled a "psyche!" and did a recurve short of New York.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
PandaCitrus wrote:GFS recurves at 189 hours south of New England.
Talk about a huge difference between the GFS and UKMET... At about 73W, UKMET has Florence at 25N moving W while GFS has it at about 38N looking to possible recurve to the NE.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
HurricaneEric wrote:PandaCitrus wrote:GFS recurves at 189 hours south of New England.
Talk about a huge difference between the GFS and UKMET... At about 73W, UKMET has Florence at 25N moving W while GFS has it at about 38N looking to possible recurve to the NE.
Ridging must be awfully strong on the UKMET.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
So, now that the GFS has Florence recurving, can we talk about the low that forms in the north Atlantic, moves SE, and appears to form into a storm, turning what would be the next storm off of Africa to the north? Would that type of thing have an effect on tracking for Florence in this run?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
It'd be scraping against the coast pretty much. Looks like it's moving very slowly. Normally when hurricanes go north near jersey and new england they tend to accelerate.


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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Becoming clear why NHC limits their forecasts to 5 days. Models aren’t that accurate farther out. Too many variables.
I think the first left bend starting at hour 24-36 should pan out. After that ????
I think the first left bend starting at hour 24-36 should pan out. After that ????
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Looks like the gfs and Canadian show the same movement around hour 198 with a sharp clockwise hook around the northwest side of a high. Gfs does the hook south of Long Island while Canadian does the same hook over North Carolina
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
I think she's going to plow into the Delmarva, the CMC is probably right on with the stronger ridging but the track looks too far south.
And we're talking record SE Canada ridging, track could end up similar to Isabel but further north. All of this is still speculative though, the Ukmet is really throwing me off.
And we're talking record SE Canada ridging, track could end up similar to Isabel but further north. All of this is still speculative though, the Ukmet is really throwing me off.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
I have a feeling past 60hrs could be a forecasting headache as we have several different scenarios from the UKMET without a north turn to The Euro and GFS which erode the original ridge and rebuild the ridge threatening the mid Atlantic and Northeast states to NAVGEM with out to sea
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Hurricaneman wrote:I have a feeling past 60hrs could be a forecasting headache as we have several different scenarios from the UKMET without a north turn to The Euro and GFS which erode the original ridge and rebuild the ridge threatening the mid Atlantic and Northeast states to NAVGEM with out to sea
Ukie hasn’t flinched in two days but the euro and gfs keep windshield washing hmm
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Aric Dunn wrote:Bocadude85 wrote:New 0z UKMET ends at 25N 73W moving due west
https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/hurricane-model-plots
anyone the ukmet intensity for 00z ?
Hour 144, 966mb.
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Could be some credence to the UKMET . does appear to be under a sheared environment and weaker for a couple days allowing the ridging to being well established before it begins to intensify again.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Looking at the satellite it looks like Florence is already starting the west turn, it would mean the GFS is turning west 18hrs later than observed so that means the GFS may already be off in the short run
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Hurricaneman wrote:Looking at the satellite it looks like Florence is already starting the west turn, it would mean the GFS is turning west 18hrs later than observed so that means the GFS may already be off in the short run
I was noticing that as well, but was not able to tell if shear was casting an illusion.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Hurricaneman wrote:Looking at the satellite it looks like Florence is already starting the west turn, it would mean the GFS is turning west 18hrs later than observed so that means the GFS may already be off in the short run
I was noticing that as well, but was not able to tell if shear was casting an illusion.
NHC discussion did mention that it was about to even out its heading.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
lol ukmet. it sure is stuck on that solution. Obviously it hasn't always been right with every storm. But still...definitely still an outlier.


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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models
Well the UKMET is either going to bust big time or have a major win. If nothing else it has been very consistent with its idea of a westerly heading.
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