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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3061 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:50 pm

Slow moving hurricanes are among the worst possible disasters. This could be bad.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3062 Postby NDG » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:52 pm

The Euro shows even stronger ridging over the NE US right before landfall than the latest GFS shows.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3063 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:52 pm

18z GFS would be the the biggest ACE producer ever
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3064 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:54 pm

BobHarlem wrote:18Z GFS goes back and hits Bermuda?


After it hits Bermuda it makes landfall on Newfoundland as a 940mb cyclone

Then it explodes into a 935mb extrapical storm heading for Iceland...
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3065 Postby edu2703 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:01 pm

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3066 Postby Ken711 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:02 pm

18z FV3-GFS appears slightly sw.

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3067 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:03 pm

18z GFS track through day 10

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3068 Postby meriland29 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Does anyone have a forecasted intensity graph?
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3069 Postby Ken711 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:13 pm

meriland29 wrote:Does anyone have a forecasted intensity graph?


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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3070 Postby meriland29 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:15 pm

Ken711 wrote:
meriland29 wrote:Does anyone have a forecasted intensity graph?


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Interesting. I noticed a few maybe a few runs ago were well into the CT 5 range.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3071 Postby plasticup » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:20 pm

Ken711 wrote:
meriland29 wrote:Does anyone have a forecasted intensity graph?


[img ]https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/06L_intensity_latest.png[/img]

Well that's terrifying. I don't think I've ever seen a graph like it.
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#3072 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:26 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Maybe its the start of (logical ) shift back west for the models. lol
Why would the gfs do that when it can bust through a ridge
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3073 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:36 pm

18z HWRF back to CAT5

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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3074 Postby AubreyStorm » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:42 pm

supercane4867 wrote:18z HWRF back to CAT5


18z HWRF with Isaac????
Thanks!
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3075 Postby meriland29 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Basically any GFS models that stick offshore or barely over the OBX should not be considered as highly. There are too many variables that signify, heavily-- that this will be west of OBX if not south as well. 18z regular GFS is the first run in quite a few runs that was not an outlier. The biggest question mark now IMO is if it will stall due to 'ridge fight' for days or if it will just move inland with minimal or non-existent stalling. Although both are horrible, especially if she is as strong as most models predict, the 1st outcome is catastrophically worse than the 2nd. The amount of rain predicted (especially over that area which is already water-logged) would be as bad, if not worse than Harvey last year.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3076 Postby Hurricane Mac » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:31 pm

My understanding is that has to do partially with model runs, but also the time it takes for the NHC to prepare advisories. The times of advisories are 3, 9, 15, and 21z. The reason a 11pm (EDT) advisory comes out at 10:40 or so is because they have it completed prior to the posted time (also for news to prep for the top of the hour). It is also why the position may be slightly off based on what you see on the satellite markers, as it may be 15-60 minutes old by time the package is released.

(This info is based on my experience as a met major at Univ of Miami almost 15 years ago, so take it with a grain of salt).
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3077 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:39 pm

Interesting, although in a heartbreaking way, how another entrenched ridge could turn a standard bad hurricane into a disaster of biblical proportions (same as with Harvey last year). It makes a person think how important highs are to synoptic scale weather.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3078 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:42 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:Interesting, although in a heartbreaking way, how another entrenched ridge could turn a standard bad hurricane into a disaster of biblical proportions (same as with Harvey last year). It makes a person think how important highs are to synoptic scale weather.


especially with zero troughs.. just bouncing around ridges.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3079 Postby Blinhart » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:47 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:Interesting, although in a heartbreaking way, how another entrenched ridge could turn a standard bad hurricane into a disaster of biblical proportions (same as with Harvey last year). It makes a person think how important highs are to synoptic scale weather.


especially with zero troughs.. just bouncing around ridges.


Yeah this system could go in and then out and then in and then out, up and down, you never know. Need to find something to steer this system before it just sits there and washes away miles of shoreline.
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Re: ATL: FLORENCE - Models

#3080 Postby toad strangler » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:49 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:Interesting, although in a heartbreaking way, how another entrenched ridge could turn a standard bad hurricane into a disaster of biblical proportions (same as with Harvey last year). It makes a person think how important highs are to synoptic scale weather.


especially with zero troughs.. just bouncing around ridges.



The zero trough part is what blows my mind.
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