ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6601 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:36 pm

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SconnieCane wrote:Perhaps lost in all the wobble watching and hand-wringing over the timing of the turn, but is it me or have there been NO updates from anyone on the Abacos Islands since the eye passed over?

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Judging by videos the damage is catastrophic. I wouldnt expect any communication till somebody flies out that way


and most of those videos were during the calm of the eye, the worst part hadn't arrived yet.



No videos yet of afterwords. Hope that lady with her baby are ok. Water was on the second floor
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6602 Postby Hurrilurker » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:36 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Is it jogging SW???

Or is that my eyes


Looks like a wobble WSW, but give it 6 hours and see the position. I still think a pass over or just south of Freeport is within the realm of possibility only due to the ridge not collapsing or weakening yet.

Yes, if the eye somehow goes south of Freeport, it's definitely time to worry and start re-evaluating what is happening. That's a critical milestone. Although, there is a possibility of a little loop before heading north, which could falsely present itself as southern movement if extrapolated out.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6603 Postby nativefloridian » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:36 pm

NFLnut wrote:
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NHC doesn't really have it turning until 36 hours.

https://i.imgur.com/B0RGZA5.png


Well Dorian better stall right now



It's not forecast to stall until it reaches Freeport.


I understand that's what is forecasted, however it appears it will reach Freeport before 36 hrs.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6604 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:37 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:Pressure definitely up a little. Not sure if it's due to land or structural.

I believe it's due to land and upwelling. The waters between the islands are not as deep

Don't think it's upwelling. If it was, we'd see some top warming. We're seeing the opposite of that right now with sunset. Although, it certainly is something to keep an eye on for the next day or two. Land does look valid though. Irma's pressure briefly rose above 920 mb after crossing some of the NE Caribbean islands before coming back down to about 915 mb again once clear.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6605 Postby NFLnut » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:38 pm

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I sure don't see any northern component to Dorian's movement. And it sure hasn't stalled.


It's not forecast to have any northern component to its movement until sometime tomorrow. Until about 2pm tomorrow, the NHC has it going almost due west in the 5pm forecast.


For that to be valid, it also has to slow to the crawl they've been predicting. Right?


Well, it has slowed from 10mph to 8mph to 5mph so a slow down has occurred and that was as of the 5pm. I do admit that it "appears" to be going faster, but these loops that everyone is watching are 3-4 hours so it is hard to judge speed.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6606 Postby stormhunter7 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:40 pm

Eye is over some shallow water now..... i wonder how this will affect the evaporation being pulled up by the 170+mph winds...?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6607 Postby mpic » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:41 pm

Will they wait now until Dorian has completely cleared the islands to do another recon?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6608 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:41 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:Am I imagining things or could you see the pinwheel eye effect in the eye for a little bit there? If you remember isabel's when it was annular. I HATE using the word annular at all unless there's enough evidence to support it but it just looks interesting lol


[url][url]https://twitter.com/danlindsey77/status/1168269979625459712[/url] [/url]

Nope, it's definitely in there. You'll see it in the eye of intense tropical cyclones sometimes, regardless of eye size. Super Typhoon Jebi had a particularly vivid one last year in an eye about this size.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6609 Postby RL3AO » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:42 pm

nativefloridian wrote:
NFLnut wrote:
nativefloridian wrote:
Well Dorian better stall right now



It's not forecast to stall until it reaches Freeport.


I understand that's what is forecasted, however it appears it will reach Freeport before 36 hrs.


The NHC forecast has it at Freeports longitude at 1pm tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6610 Postby yzerfan » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:42 pm

We were on I-10 in the western Florida panhandle and saw lots of power company trucks with Texas plates heading eastward toward staging areas.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6611 Postby dukeblue219 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:43 pm

mpic wrote:Will they wait now until Dorian has completely cleared the islands to do another recon?


Nah. That AF flight will be in there for quite a while now, and these islands aren't a huge impediment to recon. They won't penetrate over land most likely but that's about it.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6612 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:46 pm

NFLnut wrote:
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I sure don't see any northern component to Dorian's movement. And it sure hasn't stalled.


It's not forecast to have any northern component to its movement until sometime tomorrow. Until about 2pm tomorrow, the NHC has it going almost due west in the 5pm forecast.


Yup. Exactly right.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6613 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:47 pm

RL3AO wrote:
nativefloridian wrote:
NFLnut wrote:

It's not forecast to stall until it reaches Freeport.


I understand that's what is forecasted, however it appears it will reach Freeport before 36 hrs.


The NHC forecast has it at Freeports longitude at 1pm tomorrow.


Even at 5mph it could be there as soon as 10am eastern time.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6614 Postby sicktght311 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:49 pm

TheDreamTraveler wrote:Am I imagining things or could you see the pinwheel eye effect in the eye for a little bit there? If you remember isabel's when it was annular. I HATE using the word annular at all unless there's enough evidence to support it but it just looks interesting lol


[url][url]https://twitter.com/danlindsey77/status/1168269979625459712[/url] [/url]


Incredible to see the gravity waves expanding outwards too
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6615 Postby edu2703 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:49 pm

8:00 PM EDT Sun Sep 1
Location: 26.6°N 77.6°W
Moving: W at 5 mph
Min pressure: 915 mb
Max sustained: 185 mph
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6616 Postby hipshot » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:50 pm

ozonepete wrote:
NFLnut wrote:
mutley wrote:
I sure don't see any northern component to Dorian's movement. And it sure hasn't stalled.


It's not forecast to have any northern component to its movement until sometime tomorrow. Until about 2pm tomorrow, the NHC has it going almost due west in the 5pm forecast.


Yup. Exactly right.


Man, I hope you're right (the NHC is right) because if it slips a little south or stays west longer, the east coast of Florida is going to have some serious problems, just my 2c.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6617 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:51 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:
SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Is it jogging SW???

Or is that my eyes


Looks like a wobble WSW, but give it 6 hours and see the position. I still think a pass over or just south of Freeport is within the realm of possibility only due to the ridge not collapsing or weakening yet.

Yes, if the eye somehow goes south of Freeport, it's definitely time to worry and start re-evaluating what is happening. That's a critical milestone. Although, there is a possibility of a little loop before heading north, which could falsely present itself as southern movement if extrapolated out.



That would mean its smelling out one of UKMETs tracks that take it across the state.

Its the only model showing the SW dip
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6618 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:51 pm

Both 18z HMON and HWRF have landfall on the Cape. Sadly the state of Florida may not dodge the bullet of the decade after all :cry:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6619 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:52 pm

mpic wrote:Will they wait now until Dorian has completely cleared the islands to do another recon?


Yes. If any part of the eye is over land they will not go into it.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6620 Postby Highteeld » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:54 pm

Just think about it... this thing could weaken 55 mph and still be a Cat 4!
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