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Re: 2020 Indicators: SST's / SAL / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability / Sat Images

#821 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:05 pm

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#822 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about the complete lack of Bermuda High this spring and summer so far albeit the past couple of days has featured decent easterly “trades” across Southern Florida and the Keys, though ephemeral which will end this weekend. Looking at the models this lack of Bermuda High feature looks to continue. The pattern is somewhat similar to last year as well but last year at this time we saw a pretty decent high building in. The pattern resembles nothing like 2015-2018 by this time so far, the years of persistent western Atlantic ridging (i.e. strong Bermuda High).

I will agree that the Bermuda High was absent from the beginning of April through about mid-May but since then it has been showing up more frequently to the point that even the NWS: Miami has mentioned it in their forecasts discussions over the past several weeks as stated in the Florida weather thread. It may not be as strong as the previous four years but it is stronger in my opinion when compared to the string of active years in 2010-2012.
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#823 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:29 pm

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gatorcane wrote:Surprised nobody is talking about the complete lack of Bermuda High this spring and summer so far albeit the past couple of days has featured decent easterly “trades” across Southern Florida and the Keys, though ephemeral which will end this weekend. Looking at the models this lack of Bermuda High feature looks to continue. The pattern is somewhat similar to last year as well but last year at this time we saw a pretty decent high building in. The pattern resembles nothing like 2015-2018 by this time so far, the years of persistent western Atlantic ridging (i.e. strong Bermuda High).


Perhaps thw NAO can give us some clues. Starting in April, there have been 2 big dips into negative territory while the remainder of the time it has been hovering near 0. If we see prolonged positive NAO, it could cause the Bermuda High to build back in

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Well the NAO is likely to stay positive for at least the next two weeks. Even during a -NAO season we can get hit from so-called backdoor hurricanes in the Western Caribbean in October so we’re not off the hook even if the NAO goes negative in ASO.
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#824 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:54 pm

EPS has a decent active CCKW/MJO combo entering the WATL around June 20th. Shows it lasting through the end of the month and into July. So although June is typically a slow month, we could see more systems develop and maybe new records set. Especially with all these impressive waves emerging off of west Africa.
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#825 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:59 pm

Kingarabian wrote:EPS has a decent active CCKW/MJO combo entering the WATL around June 20th. Shows it lasting through the end of the month and into July. So although June is typically a slow month, we could see more systems develop and maybe new records set. Especially with all these impressive waves emerging off of west Africa.


Like that tiny thing.

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#826 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:21 pm

I dont have to say anything as the comparison graphics do the talking.

June 12 2020

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June 12 2017

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June 12 2018

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June 12 2019

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#827 Postby SFLcane » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Nice plots Luis....We will see how it survives the enhanced trades.
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#828 Postby StruThiO » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:35 pm

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#829 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:07 am

cycloneye wrote:I dont have to say anything as the comparison graphics do the talking.

June 12 2020

https://i.imgur.com/5M0Gjuo.jpg

June 12 2017

https://i.imgur.com/kUZWYk7.jpg

June 12 2018

https://i.imgur.com/4lrkmu3.jpg

June 12 2019

https://i.imgur.com/UCvC64b.jpg


I'm pretty sure that 2020 graphic is glitched.
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#830 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:23 am

JetFuel_SE wrote:
cycloneye wrote:I dont have to say anything as the comparison graphics do the talking.

June 12 2020

https://i.imgur.com/5M0Gjuo.jpg

June 12 2017

https://i.imgur.com/kUZWYk7.jpg

June 12 2018

https://i.imgur.com/4lrkmu3.jpg

June 12 2019

https://i.imgur.com/UCvC64b.jpg


I'm pretty sure that 2020 graphic is glitched.


How do you know?
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#831 Postby Shell Mound » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:49 am

TROPICAL-CYCLONE HEAT POTENTIAL (TCHP)

2020:
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2017:
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2010:
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2005:
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#832 Postby StruThiO » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:01 am

Product is definitely glitched. It freaked me out too, don't worry. Here's the full list of archived dates: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/fulllist.php

Note the one day difference between June 5th and June 6th.

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#833 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:12 am

StruThiO wrote:Product is definitely glitched. It freaked me out too, don't worry. Here's the full list of archived dates: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/fulllist.php

Note the one day difference between June 5th and June 6th.

https://i.imgur.com/XwVxHuC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PZkJuaq.jpg

The main pocket of OHC is still higher than that of 2005, 2010, or 2017, although there’s less OHC in the Gulf as compared to those years.
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#834 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:16 am

aspen wrote:
StruThiO wrote:Product is definitely glitched. It freaked me out too, don't worry. Here's the full list of archived dates: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/fulllist.php

Note the one day difference between June 5th and June 6th.

https://i.imgur.com/XwVxHuC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PZkJuaq.jpg

The main pocket of OHC is still higher than that of 2005, 2010, or 2017, although there’s less OHC in the Gulf as compared to those years.


Splitting hairs probably. That map says the table is set. Of course that means nothing if nobody comes to the table :)
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#835 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:19 am

toad strangler wrote:
aspen wrote:
StruThiO wrote:Product is definitely glitched. It freaked me out too, don't worry. Here's the full list of archived dates: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/fulllist.php

Note the one day difference between June 5th and June 6th.

https://i.imgur.com/XwVxHuC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PZkJuaq.jpg

The main pocket of OHC is still higher than that of 2005, 2010, or 2017, although there’s less OHC in the Gulf as compared to those years.


Splitting hairs probably. That map says the table is set. Of course that means nothing if nobody comes to the table :)


Oh I have no doubt there will be plenty on the table give it a few weeks. :wink:
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#836 Postby Hammy » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:48 pm

Is it me or have the waves this year had more spin and stronger low-level westerlies early on than a lot of recent seasons?
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#837 Postby StruThiO » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:57 pm

Hammy wrote:Is it me or have the waves this year had more spin and stronger low-level westerlies early on than a lot of recent seasons?


Is it just me or has the ITCZ looked much healthier so far this year than in recent years?

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#838 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:24 am

Given that there are still six waves active on the NHC surface analysis and I'm seeing a potential wave coming off Africa, I wouldn't be surprised if there are 7 simultaneously active waves soon.

Does anyone have saved images of a surface analysis from around this same time last year and perhaps even other years gone by?
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#839 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:50 am

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#840 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:20 am

StruThiO wrote:
Hammy wrote:Is it me or have the waves this year had more spin and stronger low-level westerlies early on than a lot of recent seasons?


Is it just me or has the ITCZ looked much healthier so far this year than in recent years?

https://i.imgur.com/qRdV3cr.jpg

It does look healthy, especially for June while a suppressed KW is passing through. In 2018 and 2019 the MDR seemed nearly convectiveless at times before late August.
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