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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#241 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:39 pm

I think we had our only real lull we're going to get between Cristobal and Dolly in mid-June honestly
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#242 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:00 pm

The one tower rotating on the east side is kind humerous.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#243 Postby Kazmit » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:00 pm

Not too promising of a future ahead of 11 but nevertheless this will be the second MDR TS this year. By this date 2017 also had 2 MDR storms.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#244 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:37 pm

I had to remove a few posts not related to this storm.

While I understand opinions on rooting for storms or not, it has nothing to do with this system.

Carry on...
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#245 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:38 pm

Once TD11 becomes Josephine, it’ll be the earliest 10th named storm on record; Jose ‘05 was named on August 22nd.

I’m intrigued to see what will happen to Josephine or its remnants once it reaches the west-central Atlantic pocket of >29 C SSTs between the Carolinas and Bermuda. That appears to be where it’s heading, and the CMC did show a bit of re-intensification in today’s 00z run.
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#246 Postby Visioen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:13 pm

aspen wrote:Once TD11 becomes Josephine, it’ll be the earliest 10th named storm on record; Jose ‘05 was named on August 22nd.

I’m intrigued to see what will happen to Josephine or its remnants once it reaches the east-central Atlantic pocket of >29 C SSTs between the Carolinas and Bermuda. That appears to be where it’s heading, and the CMC did show a bit of re-intensification in today’s 00z run.

You mean west-central Atlantic? Otherwise I'm confused.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#247 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:27 pm

Visioen wrote:
aspen wrote:Once TD11 becomes Josephine, it’ll be the earliest 10th named storm on record; Jose ‘05 was named on August 22nd.

I’m intrigued to see what will happen to Josephine or its remnants once it reaches the east-central Atlantic pocket of >29 C SSTs between the Carolinas and Bermuda. That appears to be where it’s heading, and the CMC did show a bit of re-intensification in today’s 00z run.

You mean west-central Atlantic? Otherwise I'm confused.

Yeah..I goofed. I did mean west-central. SSTs in that region are very high, second only to the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#248 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:58 pm

aspen wrote:
Visioen wrote:
aspen wrote:Once TD11 becomes Josephine, it’ll be the earliest 10th named storm on record; Jose ‘05 was named on August 22nd.

I’m intrigued to see what will happen to Josephine or its remnants once it reaches the east-central Atlantic pocket of >29 C SSTs between the Carolinas and Bermuda. That appears to be where it’s heading, and the CMC did show a bit of re-intensification in today’s 00z run.

You mean west-central Atlantic? Otherwise I'm confused.

Yeah..I goofed. I did mean west-central. SSTs in that region are very high, second only to the Gulf.


Yes, since the MJO is expected to shift to a more favorable phase for the Atlantic relatively soon, I would watch this system even if it breaks back down into a wave. We know from past storms that the story is not always over after degeneration into a wave.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#249 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:36 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
aspen wrote:
Visioen wrote:You mean west-central Atlantic? Otherwise I'm confused.

Yeah..I goofed. I did mean west-central. SSTs in that region are very high, second only to the Gulf.


Yes, since the MJO is expected to shift to a more favorable phase for the Atlantic relatively soon, I would watch this system even if it breaks back down into a wave. We know from past storms that the story is not always over after degeneration into a wave.


Irene in 2005, I can argue Andrew in 1992 and one called td10 in 2005 split in two pieces, the southern part of TD10 became Jose and the northern part became the most costly hurricane in history so in no way is this system done after degeneration but could redevelop on its way out
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#250 Postby NXStumpy_Robothing » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:41 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
captainbarbossa19 wrote:
aspen wrote:Yeah..I goofed. I did mean west-central. SSTs in that region are very high, second only to the Gulf.


Yes, since the MJO is expected to shift to a more favorable phase for the Atlantic relatively soon, I would watch this system even if it breaks back down into a wave. We know from past storms that the story is not always over after degeneration into a wave.


Irene in 2005, I can argue Andrew in 1992 and one called td10 in 2005 split in two pieces, the southern part of TD10 became Jose and the northern part became the most costly hurricane in history so in no way is this system done after degeneration but could redevelop on its way out

We had a great example just 3 years ago with Harvey - was a weak TS in the MDR, devolved back into a wave, and then tied Katrina as the most costly hurricane ever. Then again, something like that is more of the exception than the norm, but worth noting regardless.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#251 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:25 pm

The center is tucking under that big blow up now. it is just on the north side of the convection.
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#252 Postby BYG Jacob » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:51 pm

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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#253 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Perhaps the mid level spin is northwest of the LLC?
LLC was down near 12.3N
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#254 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:01 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if this wave may find some pretty good conditions once it starts to recurve over the SW Atlantic and gets out of the MDR. Could spin up into a TS in the next few days as well before it hits a wall of shear near the Lesser Antilles. Water temps are running above normal in that region around Bermuda also, something to keep an eye on.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#255 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:08 pm

gatorcane wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if this wave may find some pretty good conditions once it starts to recurve over the SW Atlantic and gets out of the MDR. Could spin up into a TS in the next few days as well before it hits a wall of shear near the Lesser Antilles. Water temps are running above normal in that region around Bermuda also, something to keep an eye on.



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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#256 Postby Kazmit » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:09 pm

gatorcane wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if this wave may find some pretty good conditions once it starts to recurve over the SW Atlantic and gets out of the MDR. Could spin up into a TS in the next few days as well before it hits a wall of shear near the Lesser Antilles. Water temps are running above normal in that region around Bermuda also, something to keep an eye on.

Yes, we need to keep an eye on this, especially since the water here is bath-like. Seems like we get slammed every year despite how small we are.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#257 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:27 pm

AL, 11, 2020081200, , BEST, 0, 119N, 409W, 30, 1008, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, ELEVEN, M

At 0000 UTC, 12 August 2020, TROPICAL DEPRESSION ELEVEN (AL11) was located in the North Atlantic basin at 11.9°N and 40.9°W. The current intensity was 30 kt and the center was moving at 13 kt at a bearing of 280 degrees. The minimum central pressure was 1008 mb.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#258 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm

TD #11 looking quite ragged tonight.

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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#259 Postby Ubuntwo » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:34 pm

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Closed + well defined circ. Pass missed the hefty convection though.
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Re: ATL: ELEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#260 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:35 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:TD #11 looking quite ragged tonight.

https://s7.gifyu.com/images/goes16_vis-swir_11L_202008112025.gif


In what way ? the center is not to the NW where the decaying MLC is from the old blown off convection..

it under the CDO on the right side. looks quite well compared to earlier..
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