2021 EPAC Season
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
They could still show development in another day or so. The seeds for development are present so these aren't exactly ghosts. But what's the excuse for the models now? Airliners are almost back operating at pre-2020 levels... so that excuse is gone.
And some of the model solution in the past days were pretty unrealistic to begin with, showing deep TC's over an area that climo prohibits development.
And some of the model solution in the past days were pretty unrealistic to begin with, showing deep TC's over an area that climo prohibits development.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
18z GFS is very bullish with the second one.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
18z a bit more realistic with the first system. For late May, No El Nino and no +PDO, 1000mb-1005mb is probably the peak @ 14.5N/112W.


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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
12z eps run.


RE this models info on meteologix.


RE this models info on meteologix.
This map displays the forecast tracks of tropical cyclones according to the ECMWF’s EPS (ensemble prediction system). The color of each dot corresponds to the forecast intensity of a given tropical system at a given time by a given ensemble member. Use this map to get a sense of forecast uncertainty. If all the track lines are clustered closely together, you can have a high degree of confidence in the track forecast. If all the colors are the same, you can have a high degree of confidence in the intensity forecast. Do note however that the ensembles can underestimate the intensity of a very strong storm, especially in the near term.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Tue May 25 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some gradual
development of this system as it moves generally westward at 5 to 10
mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
2. Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Reinhart/Beven
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Tue May 25 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some gradual
development of this system as it moves generally westward at 5 to 10
mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
2. Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Reinhart/Beven
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

18z GFS makes the right (0/20) system a hurricane again and brought back the left.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Boms 18 had the right/s lpa may just start to begin to flare-up on Saturday.




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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
00z GFS more bullish again. Shows the first system as a pretty decent 999mb TS in the open EPAC. Would be quite a feat if this materializes.

Deepens the second system to 973mb:


Deepens the second system to 973mb:

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
00z CMC loses the first system and develops the second system:


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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Very unsettled out there over the EPAC. The system near 125W has very little development odds but is worth the circle.


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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
The 125W system isn't forming. Global models almost never underdue tropical cyclone genesis when an area of enhanced convection whether that's a CCKW or MJO is approaching, and it has no model support.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some gradual
development of this system as it moves generally westward at 5 to 10
mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some gradual
development of this system as it moves generally westward at 5 to 10
mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

0z ECMWF has the left 0/30 system again though weak. Same run tries to form the right 0/20 system.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season



Icon @ Saturday

icon tuesday


GFS Monday.


leave it here for me. Yellow and king know this basin like the back of their hand. Will look in to see what they are thinking over the next few days.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Copy and paste from yesterday.
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Wed May 26 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southeastern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some
gradual development of this system as it moves generally westward at
5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
2. Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Pasch
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Wed May 26 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
1. An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southeastern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some
gradual development of this system as it moves generally westward at
5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
2. Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico later this week. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
Forecaster Pasch
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Plenty of activity along the ITCZ today. Let's see where the two low pressures will form.


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Re: 2021 EPAC Season


6z GFS moves a potent hurricane into Guerrero and eventually re-develops it in the GOM.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Yellow Evan wrote:https://i.imgur.com/b0Sf6qW.png
https://i.imgur.com/o0ml4De.png
6z GFS moves a potent hurricane into Guerrero and eventually re-develops it in the GOM.
A Cosme-Allison 89 repeat?
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season
Nothing new:
Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Wed May 26 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southeastern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some
gradual development of this system as it moves generally westward at
5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico in a couple of days. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
$$
Forecaster Pasch
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Wed May 26 2021
For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:
An area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred miles
south of the coasts of Guatemala and southeastern Mexico by this
weekend. Environmental conditions appear conducive for some
gradual development of this system as it moves generally westward at
5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Another area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles southwest of the coast of Mexico in a couple of days. Some
gradual development is possible thereafter as the system moves
westward to west-northwestward at 5 to 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
$$
Forecaster Pasch
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