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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2021 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:54 am

Eye drop 989/13, that supports the NHC's 988
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2022 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:57 am

There's a blob of recon data missing on TT:
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Did the 60 kt upgrade come from this (meaning they weren't transmitted to the public for some reason), or was it based on the assumption that stronger winds are in the NE quad?

Edit: The missing data is up now. 62 kt FL, but SFMR lower than earlier. So probably the latter.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2023 Postby Craters » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:06 am

Dang. I'm looking at the long-wave IR loop on COD, and I can't tell that Ian is moving at ALL. Wow.

Guess I'm not very tight with long-wave IR radiation or something...
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2024 Postby d3v123 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:22 am

I really thought I’d have more clarity on this storm/the track by tonight, but I guess that just won’t be the case
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2025 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:25 am

Extrap 985 this pass, hurricane force FL winds in E quad but SFMR hasn't caught up
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2026 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:36 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:Extrap 988, so not much different from the last mission. Interesting that the FL winds on the N/NW side are pretty weak this pass

Tentatively, I’m not so sure. It looks like they just missed the center, judging by the sfmr not dropping below 10kt and immediately shooting back up. I’m tempted to think it’s similar to that second pass they did on the last flight where it looked like the pressure rose. But if the next pass shows a similar pressure then I concede.

Edit: another reason the pressure may be valid is that winds in the nw quad are very unimpressive. The asymmetry of the wind field suggests Ian still has some kinks to work out

Looks like the low NW quad may be because the eyewall is open there.

The first VDM also shows a C36 eye, much larger than the 15 nm eye from the last mission.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2027 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:47 am

Eye drop 986/13, supports 985
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2028 Postby Jelmergraaff » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:47 am

ElectricStorm wrote:Extrap 985 this pass, hurricane force FL winds in E quad but SFMR hasn't caught up


Eye drop had 986mb with 13kt.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2029 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:49 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2030 Postby Landy » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:49 am

Hurricane. 65kt/985mb
AL, 09, 2022092606, , BEST, 0, 177N, 817W, 65, 985, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 0, 0, 0, 1007, 150, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, IAN, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 028,
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2031 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:52 am

Landy wrote:Hurricane. 65kt/985mb
AL, 09, 2022092606, , BEST, 0, 177N, 817W, 65, 985, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 0, 0, 0, 1007, 150, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, IAN, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 028,

Woah, didn’t think they’d upgrade on it just yet. 71kt FL technically gets it there, but sfmr hasn’t quite caught up.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2032 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:54 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Landy wrote:Hurricane. 65kt/985mb
AL, 09, 2022092606, , BEST, 0, 177N, 817W, 65, 985, HU, 64, NEQ, 15, 0, 0, 0, 1007, 150, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, IAN, D, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 028,

Woah, didn’t think they’d upgrade on it just yet. 71kt FL technically gets it there, but sfmr hasn’t quite caught up.


I am a bit surprised too given the SFMR. A blend of the data is 60 kt.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2033 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:18 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2034 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:41 am

Another thing to watch out for is the tornado threat, a couple slight risks up from SPC.

Tues 9/27
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2035 Postby Hurrilurker » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:54 am

I don’t understand how they have TS watch up for south FL but no watches or warnings up for central FL. Shouldn’t there be at least a TS if not H watch for the whole FL West coast by now?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2036 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:57 am

Hurrilurker wrote:I don’t understand how they have TS watch up for south FL but no watches or warnings up for central FL. Shouldn’t there be at least a TS if not H watch for the whole FL West coast by now?


There will be later this morning,, watches and warnings will be issued as the storm moves north.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2037 Postby Jr0d » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:22 am

Hurrilurker wrote:I don’t understand how they have TS watch up for south FL but no watches or warnings up for central FL. Shouldn’t there be at least a TS if not H watch for the whole FL West coast by now?


I would figure the would err on the side of caution and give the lower Florida Keys hurricane warning, upper Keys TStorm warnings but as of 11pm the lower Keys are under a tropical storm warning.

While my location bias certainly is a factor, only a couple of wobbles right and Key West will be getting hurricane conditions.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2038 Postby canebeard » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:24 am

Interlocking band eye forming? Overall cloud orientation becoming south-north: indicating northward motion soon?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2039 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:30 am

canebeard wrote:Interlocking band eye forming? Overall cloud orientation becoming south-north: indicating northward motion soon?


If you look at the last recon fixes the center was moving a little more north of northwest
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2040 Postby hipshot » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:35 am

Teban54 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:Extrap 988, so not much different from the last mission. Interesting that the FL winds on the N/NW side are pretty weak this pass

Tentatively, I’m not so sure. It looks like they just missed the center, judging by the sfmr not dropping below 10kt and immediately shooting back up. I’m tempted to think it’s similar to that second pass they did on the last flight where it looked like the pressure rose. But if the next pass shows a similar pressure then I concede.

Edit: another reason the pressure may be valid is that winds in the nw quad are very unimpressive. The asymmetry of the wind field suggests Ian still has some kinks to work out

Looks like the low NW quad may be because the eyewall is open there.

The first VDM also shows a C36 eye, much larger than the 15 nm eye from the last mission.

What's a C36 eye?
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