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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3161 Postby KatDaddy » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:07 am

Rapidly moving low clouds along the Upper TX Coast this morning and a few rapidly moving showers.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3162 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:23 am

Eric Webb is not your friend on Twitter if you want colder weather.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3163 Postby Itryatgolf » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:43 am

Cpv17 wrote:Eric Webb is not your friend on Twitter if you want colder weather.

Not at all and he is pretty smart with weather patterns. One of those type guys who don't have to study much and still makes all A's lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3164 Postby Itryatgolf » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:45 am

Cpv17 wrote:Eric Webb is not your friend on Twitter if you want colder weather.

I'm just happy that I saw 2in snow because that may be all I see unfortunately :grr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3165 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:11 pm

I’m not saying winter is over by any means just cuz one person on Twitter is saying so. Several other well respected people are saying the opposite.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3166 Postby Gotwood » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:17 pm

Yeah anyone saying winter is over when it literally just began a few weeks ago is not very smart. I remember hearing the same nonsense right before the Feb 21 cold outbreak.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3167 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:22 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Eric Webb is not your friend on Twitter if you want colder weather.

I'm just happy that I saw 2in snow because that may be all I see unfortunately :grr:

As much as I follow Webb and hold his views in high regard, I don’t think we can cancel winter based on what he’s saying. If his ideas come to fruition it more likely means we wouldn’t see some long duration arctic blast that shows up several weeks in advance. Feels to me like saying there would be no Atlantic majors in an upcoming hurricane season because an El Niño is forecast. Makes it less likely, but doesn’t rule out something squeaking through a generally unfavorable pattern that the models don’t sniff out until a week or less in advance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3168 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:35 pm

:uarrow: Yup. Lots of “hurricane season canceled” talk this past summer. Go talk to the folks at Sanibel Island right now…
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3169 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:02 pm

You also have to take into context what Webb is saying. +EPO/-TNH January as his posts suggest typically reverts back to -PNA and cold dumping into the High plains instead of the +PNA east coast. That's the audience he seems to be gearing at. SE ridge La Nina, but for us you dump cold into the northern plains, chances are it will bleed. No doubt if we were living on the East coast expecting a winter of blockbuster nor'easters the cutters are showing this is not the winter for that. La Nina +PNA is just no good.

Just like in December it averages warmth but there's that very sharp, cold bleed of cold in the interior of the country.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3170 Postby Itryatgolf » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:08 pm

Ntxw wrote:You also have to take into context what Webb is saying. +EPO/-TNH January as his posts suggest typically reverts back to -PNA and cold dumping into the High plains instead of the +PNA east coast. That's the audience he seems to be gearing at. SE ridge La Nina, but for us you dump cold into the northern plains, chances are it will bleed. No doubt if we were living on the East coast expecting a winter of blockbuster nor'easters the cutters are showing this is not the winter for that.


Just like in December it averages warmth but there's that very sharp, cold bleed of cold in the interior of the country.

Well then ntxw. Sounds more encouraging coming from you because February was good last winter to us so hopefully this February give us a few opportunities at snow/ice here then.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3171 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:15 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:You also have to take into context what Webb is saying. +EPO/-TNH January as his posts suggest typically reverts back to -PNA and cold dumping into the High plains instead of the +PNA east coast. That's the audience he seems to be gearing at. SE ridge La Nina, but for us you dump cold into the northern plains, chances are it will bleed. No doubt if we were living on the East coast expecting a winter of blockbuster nor'easters the cutters are showing this is not the winter for that.


Just like in December it averages warmth but there's that very sharp, cold bleed of cold in the interior of the country.

Well then ntxw. Sounds more encouraging coming from you because February was good last winter to us so hopefully this February give us a few opportunities at snow/ice here then.


La Nina is La Nina, to expect something drastically different is fool's gold. Montana, the Dakotas and the high Rockies are cold in La Nina. The south and east is warm. Sometimes that cold bleeds out and areas west of the Mississippi tends to get effected the most. Webb isn't saying anything different than to expect a Nina outcome.

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Knowing what we know about La Nina there eventually is going to be another cold surge in the northern regions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3172 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:32 pm

Is there still an SSW going on? Or what’s happening with that?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3173 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:38 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Is there still an SSW going on? Or what’s happening with that?


Sounds like Winter is over from what I've read on here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3174 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:40 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Is there still an SSW going on? Or what’s happening with that?


The strong PV gets attacked this week. Models are seeing more significant warming up there by the coming weekend. Sometime mid month we may see a good displacement and/or split. Some time after that the AO typically responds with a big dive going by past events. It took until early-mid February back in 2021 after the late Dec/Jan event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3175 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:48 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Is there still an SSW going on? Or what’s happening with that?


Sounds like Winter is over from what I've read on here.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3176 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Jan 02, 2023 1:56 pm

KatDaddy wrote:Rapidly moving low clouds along the Upper TX Coast this morning and a few rapidly moving showers.

Some of those are getting stronger. Good for the southeast and east. I am jealous. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3177 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:24 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Is there still an SSW going on? Or what’s happening with that?


Sounds like Winter is over from what I've read on here.


It just seems to me like it’s getting pushed back and the window is shrinking. I’ve been on the Jan 20th to Feb 20th bandwagon for about 3 weeks now but now it’s looking like late January at the earliest.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3178 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:27 pm

gpsnowman wrote:
KatDaddy wrote:Rapidly moving low clouds along the Upper TX Coast this morning and a few rapidly moving showers.

Some of those are getting stronger. Good for the southeast and east. I am jealous. :D


It’s almost always north and east of me lately. The only way I get anything from these types of setups is if the trough digs down really far south into Mexico or south Texas and that rarely happens.

Good thing I don’t really need the rain right now though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3179 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:33 pm

There is also a current major torch going on in Europe. The Pacific/EAJ is really pumping the warmth into the mid lats.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#3180 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:48 pm

Positive post while it's mild.

It can snow in this pattern. Very hard to do but around the 10th of January 2021 it did happen. You need a weakness underneath the eastern ridge and a strong system to help generate some cold aloft. This was Waco's 5". Warm before and after system.

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