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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#881 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:41 pm

Hot tower is rapidly building CDO
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#882 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:42 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
I think a major isn't out of the question if it tracks more north than East. If it tracks more east, then I'll go with a Cat one cane(assuming a Tuesday Night landfall due to a pronounced eastward shift).


If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of western Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.

Edit. Western Cuba
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#883 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:43 pm

Rapidly pulling in the convective debris from the Yucatan creating a feeder band.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#884 Postby zzzh » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:44 pm

AL, 10, 2023082800, , BEST, 0, 198N, 854W, 40, 995, TS,

NHC has the 00Z position at the center of that huge tower :eek:
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#885 Postby Ianswfl » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:44 pm

Jr0d wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
I think a major isn't out of the question if it tracks more north than East. If it tracks more east, then I'll go with a Cat one cane(assuming a Tuesday Night landfall due to a pronounced eastward shift).


If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


A direct hit is sarasota pushing it or do you think they could get a direct hit too?
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#886 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:46 pm

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#887 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:48 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#888 Postby fllawyer » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:51 pm

Jr0d wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
I think a major isn't out of the question if it tracks more north than East. If it tracks more east, then I'll go with a Cat one cane(assuming a Tuesday Night landfall due to a pronounced eastward shift).


If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


No model shows it being near eastern Cuba.
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#889 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:52 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#890 Postby Hurrilurker » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:56 pm

GCANE wrote:https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=42056&meas=wdpr&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT

That buoy is already recording sustained winds of ~32 kt (~37 mph) and it's probably not the highest for the system since it's a random buoy in the area. I think NHC is going to have to adjust upward after the next recon pass.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#891 Postby Zonacane » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:57 pm

I’d say we are looking at idalia’s eye forming
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#892 Postby GCANE » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:57 pm

North end of the Loop Current and CAPE is 6000 to 7000 for the last 24 hrs.
If it doesn't let up, this will be the dominating factor for intensification all the way to landfall other than an EWRC.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#893 Postby Fancy1002 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:00 pm

fllawyer wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
I think a major isn't out of the question if it tracks more north than East. If it tracks more east, then I'll go with a Cat one cane(assuming a Tuesday Night landfall due to a pronounced eastward shift).


If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


No model shows it being near eastern Cuba.

I think he meant western Cuba.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#894 Postby fllawyer » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:02 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:
fllawyer wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


No model shows it being near eastern Cuba.

I think he meant western Cuba.


No mountains in western Cuba.
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#895 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:03 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#896 Postby jfk08c » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:04 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:
fllawyer wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


No model shows it being near eastern Cuba.

I think he meant western Cuba.


Not many mountains in Western Cuba
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#897 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:05 pm

Ianswfl wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
I think a major isn't out of the question if it tracks more north than East. If it tracks more east, then I'll go with a Cat one cane(assuming a Tuesday Night landfall due to a pronounced eastward shift).


If it tracks more east, it will likely be the result of moving slower, thus more time over water.

I am now expecting a major hurricane at landfall, especially given how fast Idalia is improving as we speak.

The only thing they may inhibit Idalia tomorrow is if she moves slowly of the mountains of eastern Cuba, a track much further east that forecast.

As the storm approaches Florida the trough should improve outflow. This plus the hot water is why I expect a major hurricane.


A direct hit is sarasota pushing it or do you think they could get a direct hit too?


Anyone under the hurricane watch needs to be alert and not let the guard down, even if the latest models run shifted away.

Tomorrow mornings model runs will have much more complete data. If the models still are trending towards the northeast, left side of the cone then Sarasota will be much less likely to see a landfall.

Keep in mind the south side of a NE moving hurricane is generally the stronger, 'dirty' side and where the surge will be the worst with the onshore flow.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#898 Postby jdjaguar » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:06 pm

GCANE wrote:Hot tower is rapidly building CDO

what does the CAPE look like?
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#899 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:07 pm

zzzh wrote:
AL, 10, 2023082800, , BEST, 0, 198N, 854W, 40, 995, TS,

NHC has the 00Z position at the center of that huge tower :eek:


Dang lost .3 degrees S again. Crazy storm, certain it was moving NE.
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#900 Postby SecondBreakfast » Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:09 pm

I know the landfall is the big question but what kind of forward speed are we thinking? How much of that depends on the interaction with the trough in the north?
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