ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1961 Postby kevin » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:29 am

Center pass now, 949.8 mb with 17 kt winds. Supports 948mb/120-125kt. The southern side of Beryl is, as expected, significantly weaker. But unfortunately Jamaica will get the nasty northern portion of the hurricane.

Don't ask me how, I also don't know how this is physically possible considering the 20+ kt shear and how it looks, but Beryl seems to be an indestructible angry system and it's not giving up :double:.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1962 Postby LearnedHat » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:34 am

wxman57 wrote:Beryl is quickly weakening under strong SW-W shear. Recon should make a pass through the center shortly. First G-IV mission was last evening. As a result, the hurricane models have shifted back to the south with final landfall not far from Tampico. That's encouraging for Texas. The weaker it is in the SW Gulf, the farther west it goes as it misses the connection to the trof. Come on, Beryl, weaken!



Assuming South Texas is prepared for a weaker storm, I’d prefer it to hit close to the border and ride northward.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1963 Postby xironman » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:35 am

wxman57 wrote:
kevin wrote:First recon pass, not yet at the center and 134 kt FL winds & 125 kt SFMR. Looks like Beryl is still 125 kt.


Looks terrible on satellite imagery. Don't think I believe 125 kts. Shear is hitting it hard.


I know SFMR can be dodgy, but the 134 FL should be pretty solid. I had looked worse earlier, almost looked like it got hit by mid level shear. There is also an upper high involved as well.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1964 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:39 am

wxman57 wrote:
kevin wrote:First recon pass, not yet at the center and 134 kt FL winds & 125 kt SFMR. Looks like Beryl is still 125 kt.


Looks terrible on satellite imagery. Don't think I believe 125 kts. Shear is hitting it hard.


I mean, recon data is recon data and it's clear it's saying otherwise. Remember how Matthew didn't exactly have a stellar satellite presentation either?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1965 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:41 am

Based on the two recons' passes Beryl is still a solid Cat 4
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1966 Postby kevin » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:42 am

Dropsonde is a bit higher in terms of pressure with 952 mb. The second recon plane just made its pass and measured 139 kt FL winds and 112 kt SFMR. Combining the two passes the 139 kt FL and 125 kt SFMR supports a 125 kt intensity. But I can imagine that NHC might nudge it down to 120 kt based on Beryl's current look and expected weakening trend.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1967 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:44 am

kevin wrote:Dropsonde is a bit higher in terms of pressure with 952 mb. The second recon plane just made its pass and measured 139 kt FL winds and 112 kt SFMR. Combining the two passes the 139 kt FL and 125 kt SFMR supports a 125 kt intensity. But I can imagine that NHC might nudge it down to 120 kt based on Beryl's current look and expected weakening trend.


Yeah it's up a few millibars per recon, I expect the winds to go down to Cat 3 status by the afternoon. It's still 120-125 knots per recon, which is remarkable considering the hostile environment it's in.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1968 Postby kevin » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:45 am

Raw T# also back to 6.1 as Beryl's IR presentation has been improving over the last 30 - 60 minutes.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1969 Postby zzzh » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:47 am

700mb 139kt FL supports a solid 125kt hurricane.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1970 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:51 am

And NHC continues with 125 knots.

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8:00 AM EDT Wed Jul 3
Location: 16.9°N 75.3°W
Moving: WNW at 20 mph
Min pressure: 952 mb
Max sustained: 145 mph
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1971 Postby jaguars_22 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:56 am

I’m glad we see beryl weakening! Last night I didn’t expect to see this ugly storm this morning. I hope it weakens to tropical storm strength because I don’t like the looks of the gfs model showing it coming right over my house! I have a feeling it will miss landfall in Brownsville and do exactly what the gfs is showing staying out over water longer… storm is losing right now
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1972 Postby chaser1 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:59 am

Add to the undercutting lower-level shear, Beryl will begin to get ripped by strong upper-level northerly shear upon it's approach to Yucatan. Unfortunately, Beryl is a mad(woMAN) and seemingly hell-bent on trashing southern Jamaica first. Hopefully it'll remain south of the Island but that may be little solace given the entirety of highest winds to the north of center. It's gonna be a rough day for Jamaica I'm afraid and likely to leave the Island looking quite a bit like the Grenadines now do :roll:
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1973 Postby JRD » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:00 am

Shear close to Jamaica has slightly weakened, a result of Beryl fighting the TUTT. Also, why is there an area of low shear always present to its southwest?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1974 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:00 am

105-120 kts would be the reasonable range for intensity upon closest approach to Jamaica. And that's still no good at all.

From my amateur POV, Beryl has definitely been on a weakening trend. But it's still too strong for anyone from Jamaica's liking. It's still a mid-tier Category 4. Beryl is such a stubborn system lol
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1975 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:03 am

Looking at the models Beryl still has a good 24 hrs of shear near 20 knots before dropping down to near 10 knots before making landfall in the Yucatan P, if it avoids Jamaica's tallest mountains I still say that it has good chance of at least making landfall as a high end Cat 2 if not Cat 3 over the Yucatan P.
The GFS is still very persistent in fairly good UL conditions when it gets to the GOM.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1976 Postby xironman » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:03 am

AF says the eye is closed, while NOAA says spiral, which does not appear as a normal code.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1977 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:12 am

Northern eyewall still looks very potent, unfortunately for Jamaica.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1978 Postby 3090 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:17 am

wxman57 wrote:
kevin wrote:First recon pass, not yet at the center and 134 kt FL winds & 125 kt SFMR. Looks like Beryl is still 125 kt.


Looks terrible on satellite imagery. Don't think I believe 125 kts. Shear is hitting it hard.


Current shear (west into Beryl) will soon become perpendicular to the path and will have less of an impact. The question is how much longer does the current shear last and the resulting impact (end game) on Beryl?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1979 Postby Kazmit » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:19 am

Is NHC's closest point of approach to Jamaica close enough for the eyewall to come ashore?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1980 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:19 am

Just checked vorticity and it still looks stacked. It isn't as of now tilted.
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