2024 Cyclone Retirements (Breaking ATLC: Beryl, Helene, Milton; EPAC: John)

[Teban54]

I'm still salty that it's not Isaac heading towards retirement right now, though. At least the replacement name will be much easier to suggest.

[Tekken_Guy]

I mean we haven’t had to replace a female H name since Hortense. The list is plentiful.

[zal0phus]

My money is on Brigid and Heidi as the replacements

[Tekken_Guy]

My picks are Beth and Heather.

[GSBHurricane]

My picks to replace Beryl and Helene would probably be Bess and Hallie if I had to choose right now.

[Teban54]

Harriet would be my pick for Helene's replacement. The name sounds quite strong (and even somewhat ominous), and good thing that Harry isn't on any of the naming lists yet.

I'm also okay with Heather (despite the duplication with Heath on the auxiliary list that I pointed out earlier) and Harper.

I see more notable issues with some other options, though:

• Heidi sounds too similar to Haiti
• Some names sound too similar to Helene itself or the common mispronunciations of it (Hailey, Hallie etc)
• Some other H names are too positive to be used for public messaging of hurricanes (Harmony, Hope)

[CrazyC83]

Harriet would be my pick for Helene's replacement. The name sounds quite strong (and even somewhat ominous), and good thing that Harry isn't on any of the naming lists yet.

I'm also okay with Heather (despite the duplication with Heath on the auxiliary list that I pointed out earlier) and Harper.

I see more notable issues with some other options, though:

• Heidi sounds too similar to Haiti
• Some names sound too similar to Helene itself or the common mispronunciations of it (Hailey, Hallie etc)
• Some other H names are too positive to be used for public messaging of hurricanes (Harmony, Hope)

The pronunciation is quite different between Heather and Heath, with the long E vs. short E. I don't see it as a huge issue. They are also 21 names apart.

[Category5Kaiju]

Harriet would be my pick for Helene's replacement. The name sounds quite strong (and even somewhat ominous), and good thing that Harry isn't on any of the naming lists yet.

I'm also okay with Heather (despite the duplication with Heath on the auxiliary list that I pointed out earlier) and Harper.

I see more notable issues with some other options, though:

• Heidi sounds too similar to Haiti
• Some names sound too similar to Helene itself or the common mispronunciations of it (Hailey, Hallie etc)
• Some other H names are too positive to be used for public messaging of hurricanes (Harmony, Hope)

The pronunciation is quite different between Heather and Heath, with the long E vs. short E. I don't see it as a huge issue. They are also 21 names apart.

We also have William and Will on the Atlantic naming lists. And Nicholas/Nicole and Julia/Julian. I think in the grand scheme of things, Heather is going to be the most likely replacement name.

[CrazyC83]

Names that are NOT available to replace Helene:

Hanna, Hattie, Hazel, Hedda, Henriette, Hermine, Hilary, Hilda, Hortense

Also, the names NOT available to replace Beryl:

Barbara, Beatriz, Bertha, Betsy, Beulah, Blanca, Bonnie, Bruna

[wwizard]

They brought Helene back from the 50's, why not bring Holly back?
For B, Beth or Brenda

[Xyls]

I'm surprised no one is suggesting that Debby may also be a retirement candidate. The flooding the remnants caused in Quebec did 2.5 billion in insured damage which would make Debby the most expensive tropical cyclone in Canadian history overtaking Fiona by nearly triple, and the most expensive natural disaster in Quebec's history overtaking the infamous 1998 Ice Storm. Hard to say with Canadian hurricane retirement standards but I could potentially see a request getting made. Though I'm not sure in our media how much the name Debby was associated with the flooding as there was some mention of it, so not sure if the name is associated by the public with the flooding in Quebec at all to justify it as a name that should get retired.

[CrazyC83]

I'm surprised no one is suggesting that Debby may also be a retirement candidate. The flooding the remnants caused in Quebec did 2.5 billion in insured damage which would make Debby the most expensive tropical cyclone in Canadian history overtaking Fiona by nearly triple, and the most expensive natural disaster in Quebec's history overtaking the infamous 1998 Ice Storm. Hard to say with Canadian hurricane retirement standards but I could potentially see a request getting made. Though I'm not sure in our media how much the name Debby was associated with the flooding as there was some mention of it, so not sure if the name is associated by the public with the flooding in Quebec at all to justify it as a name that should get retired.

Most aren't using the name Debby extensively as the trigger for the flooding though. I hadn't really heard about it much, even though that is technically true. (Although, a repeat of Hazel 1954 would likely do over $20 billion in damage in Canada).

[HurricaneRyan]

If Debby gets retired, it will be because of Canada, much like how Beryl will be retired by the Leeward Islands instead of the US.

The future storm in the Caribbean will likely be Leslie instead of Kirk, so if it becomes a bad storm, we might need a new L name.

[Category5Kaiju]

If Debby gets retired, it will be because of Canada, much like how Beryl will be retired by the Leeward Islands instead of the US.

The future storm in the Caribbean will likely be Leslie instead of Kirk, so if it becomes a bad storm, we might need a new L name.

I'd actually be a bit cautious to think that the future Caribbean storm will be the L storm; recent models have started to somewhat favor the MDR system after Kirk developing rather quickly and a somewhat weaker system in the Caribbean that takes a bit longer to grow into something

[Teban54]

If Debby gets retired, it will be because of Canada, much like how Beryl will be retired by the Leeward Islands instead of the US.

The future storm in the Caribbean will likely be Leslie instead of Kirk, so if it becomes a bad storm, we might need a new L name.

Beryl caused more deaths in the US (45) than in other countries combined (25). There's a nonzero chance the US may also request retirement of Beryl, though obviously not as the only country to do so, and the chance is not nearly as high as Helene.

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I'm surprised no one is suggesting that Debby may also be a retirement candidate. The flooding the remnants caused in Quebec did 2.5 billion in insured damage which would make Debby the most expensive tropical cyclone in Canadian history overtaking Fiona by nearly triple, and the most expensive natural disaster in Quebec's history overtaking the infamous 1998 Ice Storm. Hard to say with Canadian hurricane retirement standards but I could potentially see a request getting made. Though I'm not sure in our media how much the name Debby was associated with the flooding as there was some mention of it, so not sure if the name is associated by the public with the flooding in Quebec at all to justify it as a name that should get retired.

Most aren't using the name Debby extensively as the trigger for the flooding though. I hadn't really heard about it much, even though that is technically true. (Although, a repeat of Hazel 1954 would likely do over $20 billion in damage in Canada).

I confirm debby was bad historic flooding for my town

[HurricaneRyan]

My picks for replacement names:

Brittany
Denise
Heather

[Fancy1002]

I'm still salty that it's not Isaac heading towards retirement right now, though. At least the replacement name will be much easier to suggest.

Agreed, if that North Carolina storm a few weeks ago would’ve been named, then it would’ve been Isaac getting retired instead of Helene.

[HurricaneRyan]

I'm still salty that it's not Isaac heading towards retirement right now, though. At least the replacement name will be much easier to suggest.

Agreed, if that North Carolina storm a few weeks ago would’ve been named, then it would’ve been Isaac getting retired instead of Helene.

Helene affected North Carolina either way. It's like it was doomed to affect it.

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Maybe hurricane kirk if it affect badly united kingdom, france and benelux