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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2501 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:05 pm

18z EPS noticeable shift south with the snow mean
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2502 Postby wxman22 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:29 pm

You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2503 Postby TropicalTundra » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:How is the cold front looking coming in tonight? Faster and or colder than originally forecast?


The supposed timeframe for the front to hit DFW should be between 8-9am. Need to watch early in the mornin’.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2504 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:32 pm

Stratton23 wrote:18z EPS noticeable shift south with the snow mean


Yep, past 4 run trend….
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2505 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:49 pm

Geez, the RAP and HRRR are bonkers with Kansas snow. 30 inches just 30 miles north of my hometown.

Would be the biggest storm in state history. lol.

Would be 7 foot drifts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2506 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:51 pm

wxman22 wrote:You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

https://i.ibb.co/kcXV06m/sn10-acc-mean-imp-us-sc-2.png


No you do not, it’s extremely rare at this range too. Confidence is about as high as you can get in the EPS, 44 of 50 members showing greater than 1” accumulation for DFW

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2507 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:53 pm

orangeblood wrote:
wxman22 wrote:You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

https://i.ibb.co/kcXV06m/sn10-acc-mean-imp-us-sc-2.png


No you do not, it’s extremely rare at this range too. Confidence is about as high as you can get in the EPS, 44 of 50 members showing greater than 1” accumulation for DFW

https://images.weatherbell.com/meteogram/ecmwf-ensemble/KDFW/indiv_snow/1736013600/1736013600-Q7jl1EcNpq8.png


So at this point are we just being greedy with slight shifts and variations of placement?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2508 Postby JayDT » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:58 pm

orangeblood wrote:
wxman22 wrote:You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

https://i.ibb.co/kcXV06m/sn10-acc-mean-imp-us-sc-2.png


No you do not, it’s extremely rare at this range too. Confidence is about as high as you can get in the EPS, 44 of 50 members showing greater than 1” accumulation for DFW

https://images.weatherbell.com/meteogram/ecmwf-ensemble/KDFW/indiv_snow/1736013600/1736013600-Q7jl1EcNpq8.png


Okay after some of these 18z runs this definitely helps calm my nerves a bit.. As long as things are still looking good overall.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2509 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:58 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Geez, the RAP and HRRR are bonkers with Kansas snow. 30 inches just 30 miles north of my hometown.

Would be the biggest storm in state history. lol.

Would be 7 foot drifts.


Yeah I am really curious about this. Somebody is gonna over perform the 15 inches I think for sure. The moisture plume on the hi res models is just something to behold

Btw if the KC airport gets a foot it'll be the worst storm in 60 years!!! :eek: :eek:

Even 10 inches is a decade
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2510 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:01 pm

EPS and CMC ensemble pretty much in agreement with the GEFS/GFS a bit of an outlier. You're beginning to see more consensus (even with GEFS) for an earlier/faster progression of energy coming out ahead of the main low and therefore EPS shifting a little further south with snowfall potential down into southern HC and even portions of SC TX. Something to watch as we move into the 0z model timeframe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2511 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:05 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
wxman22 wrote:You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

https://i.ibb.co/kcXV06m/sn10-acc-mean-imp-us-sc-2.png


No you do not, it’s extremely rare at this range too. Confidence is about as high as you can get in the EPS, 44 of 50 members showing greater than 1” accumulation for DFW

https://images.weatherbell.com/meteogram/ecmwf-ensemble/KDFW/indiv_snow/1736013600/1736013600-Q7jl1EcNpq8.png


So at this point are we just being greedy with slight shifts and variations of placement?


You are sitting better now than you did three days ago, and five. Could still improve.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2512 Postby Sambucol2024 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:08 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:18z EPS noticeable shift south with the snow mean


Yep, past 4 run trend….
https://maps.api.weatherbell.com/gif/temporary/ecmwf-ensemble-avg-tx-total_snow_10to1-1736013600-1736488800-1736488800-20.gif

That looks like it’s close to or in the Houston area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2513 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:11 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
wxman22 wrote:You don't see a signal like this that often around here.

https://i.ibb.co/kcXV06m/sn10-acc-mean-imp-us-sc-2.png


No you do not, it’s extremely rare at this range too. Confidence is about as high as you can get in the EPS, 44 of 50 members showing greater than 1” accumulation for DFW

https://images.weatherbell.com/meteogram/ecmwf-ensemble/KDFW/indiv_snow/1736013600/1736013600-Q7jl1EcNpq8.png


So at this point are we just being greedy with slight shifts and variations of placement?


For the DFW metroplex, it would take a pretty shocking turn of events to not see at least some accumulating snow from this setup (greater than a trace). Now that we have a much better picture of 500 mb and precip, the most questionable aspect are the temps which will obviously dictate the extent of accumulations
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2514 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:12 pm

Brent wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:Geez, the RAP and HRRR are bonkers with Kansas snow. 30 inches just 30 miles north of my hometown.

Would be the biggest storm in state history. lol.

Would be 7 foot drifts.


Yeah I am really curious about this. Somebody is gonna over perform the 15 inches I think for sure. The moisture plume on the hi res models is just something to behold

Btw if the KC airport gets a foot it'll be the worst storm in 60 years!!! :eek: :eek:

Even 10 inches is a decade


The average for many along the worst zone is 18-20 inches a year, so this may basically make or exceed the annual total.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2515 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:15 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Geez, the RAP and HRRR are bonkers with Kansas snow. 30 inches just 30 miles north of my hometown.

Would be the biggest storm in state history. lol.

Would be 7 foot drifts.

That's how you get a snowpack.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2516 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:16 pm

When exactly is our late week storm coming ashore for better sampling?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2517 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:20 pm

For those of us further south across the Hill Country into the Austin/San Antonio corridor you can see from the 18z EPS panels where this gets a bit more interesting Wednesday evening into early Thursday morning and why ICON may end up being the winner for sniffing this possibility out before other models began to see it. CMC was also in the ballpark as well.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2518 Postby Gotwood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:23 pm

txtwister78 wrote:For those of us further south across the Hill Country into the Austin/San Antonio corridor you can see from the 18z EPS panels where this gets a bit more interesting Wednesday evening into early Thursday morning and why ICON may end up being the winner for sniffing this possibility out before other models began to see it. CMC was also in the ballpark as well.

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/tx/snow_total_multimember_panel_ecmwf_a_cm/1736013600/1736424000-npYSteimgT8.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/tx/snow_total_multimember_panel_ecmwf_b/1736013600/1736424000-kR3t2JzOTSs.png

All I’m saying is if NTX gets shafted on this one I’ll never trust another model again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2519 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:24 pm

gpsnowman wrote:When exactly is our late week storm coming ashore for better sampling?


Main system is just a small s/w coming ashore on the Oregon Coast Sunday evening. It’ll then strengthen substantially around Las Vegas on Tuesday. At the same time, the 2nd s/w that’ll phase with the main system (and reinforce the cold air aloft) will come onshore in British Columbia Tuesday as well
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2520 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:30 pm

orangeblood wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:When exactly is our late week storm coming ashore for better sampling?


Main system is just a small s/w coming ashore on the Oregon Coast Sunday evening. It’ll then strengthen substantially around Las Vegas on Tuesday. At the same time, the 2nd s/w that’ll phase with the main system (and reinforce the cold air aloft) will come onshore in British Columbia Tuesday as well

Great explanation!! Like Ntwx said it's going to be a sleepless week. Looking forward to it
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