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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3981 Postby txtwister78 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:24 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z RGEM and using as example of a possible scenario. In a thunderstorm, could be heavy intense rain, or heavy intense burst of snow, or a smorgasbord.

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Only thing I'll say about the RGEM at this point (btw I get it it's just an example), but if that model were being treated as remotely serious by NWS offices in terms of what it has shown over the past several runs, you would be seeing widespread winter storm warnings out for areas further south of DFW just due to the amount of freezing rain it has been putting out. Just think we're getting to a point where you can begin to toss out some of these outliers and go with blends, but get your point, nonetheless should something like that show up across DFW. I just don't think the RGEM "scenario" can be viewed as a serious one in general considering other model data.

Btw..granted this is a temp difference bias so it's obviously a little colder whereas all that could be rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3982 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:27 pm

CPC already went ahead and issued a slight risk of hazardous temperatures for the central and northern plains in the 19-22nd time frame, very interesting to note
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3983 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:29 pm

Stratton23 wrote:CPC already went ahead and issued a slight risk of hazardous temperatures for the central and northern plains in the 19-22nd time frame, very interesting to note


I've already seen a couple people here talking about it

Even the warmup next week is very muted considering what I heard the other day
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3984 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:35 pm

Stratton23 wrote:CPC already went ahead and issued a slight risk of hazardous temperatures for the central and northern plains in the 19-22nd time frame, very interesting to note


Today's 12z CFSv2 run was interestingly cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3985 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:38 pm

No school for the kiddo Thursday or Friday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3986 Postby Quixotic » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:38 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
cstrunk wrote:I'm not liking the current temperature of 46F here in Longview.

I admit this afternoon's temps make me nervous. That all is fixed if we can get some heavy sleet tomorrow morning but we will see.


Keep your eye on your DP. It’s 37 IMBY with a Dew of 18. I expect that the DP will come up as the storm approaches. If it’s close to freezing before precip starts I will worry.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3987 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:43 pm

Temp down to 39 IMBY. Keep in mind I don't have a properly shielded/setup station, so it may be a degree or two too warm.

But, it seems like the increase has stopped.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3988 Postby BradKingK » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:45 pm

Looks like SHV NWS is no closer to definitive solutions to this quagmire.

National Weather Service Shreveport LA
309 PM CST Wed Jan 8 2025

...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM...

.SHORT TERM...
(This evening through Thursday Night)
Issued at 141 PM CST Wed Jan 8 2025

The time is almost at hand that we can put this winter storm in
the rear view mirror and get back to seasonable temperatures. But
first we need to get through it I guess. Here are the main changes
made to the forecast this afternoon. The Winter Storm Warning has
been expanded southward to include most of the I-20 corridor till
you get past Minden, LA. In addition to this, I have issued a
Winter Weather Advisory for a row of counties/parishes south of
the current Warning. This includes Cherokee, Rusk, Panola, De
Soto, Red River, Bienville, Jackson, Ouachita, Lincoln, and Union.
The main reason for the southern expansion is to account for the
trends in potential ice accumulation. Models were a little more
bullish with ice accumulation, especially for our east Texas
counties added to the Advisory. While criteria might not be met
widespread across all the Advisory counties and parishes, I think
that it will be met in at least the northern portions of the
counties/parishes.

Let`s discuss timing first, looks like things will get going
Thursday morning across our western zones before spreading
eastward and becoming more widespread by late morning and early
afternoon. At the onset of precipitation, looks like most of it
could be in the way of wintry precipitation. As we move later
into the morning and into the afternoon hours, it all depends on
where the 32 degree line sets up. Right now it looks like it will
move well north of the I-20 corridor by Thursday afternoon and
could set up as far as the Louisiana/Arkansas border. By the
evening and overnight hours, this line will linger back towards
the I-20 corridor and will make all the difference on what type of
precipitation falls and where. This is where the majority of our
lower confidence remains. I am pretty confident that things near
and north of I-30 will remain all wintry, while areas between I-20
and I-30 will be a wide variety of mixes at times. Once you get
below I-20, thinking is that during the day Thursday most of this
area will be all rain. As we move into the overnight hours, things
will all depend once again where that line sets up.

Right now snow accumulations in the Winter Storm Warning area will
range anywhere from 2-8 inches with the higher amounts expected
across the northern part of the Warning area and the lower amounts
to the southern part of this area. Ice accumulations will vary,
again dependent on where the 32 degree line sets up but overall
accumulations across the Winter Storm Warning area will be up to a
quarter of an inch while areas in the Advisory will be around a
tenth of an inch. There is still some potential that things could
change with future model runs so it is important to continue to
follow the forecast for the latest information and check out our
social media pages for images that go along with this system. /33/
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3989 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:45 pm

All of a sudden the GFS is the cooler model go figure.

Around the first big batch of QPF.

DFW
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Denton County
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Collin County
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3990 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:45 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:
cstrunk wrote:I'm not liking the current temperature of 46F here in Longview.

I admit this afternoon's temps make me nervous. That all is fixed if we can get some heavy sleet tomorrow morning but we will see.


Keep your eye on your DP. It’s 37 IMBY with a Dew of 18. I expect that the DP will come up as the storm approaches. If it’s close to freezing before precip starts I will worry.

DP is 19. So not bad there. And I agree that is a good reminder.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3991 Postby WacoWx » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:48 pm

NTXW, when are you going to make your accumulation prediction?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3992 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:50 pm

BradKingK wrote:Looks like SHV NWS is no closer to definitive solutions to this quagmire.

I agree with them this is super tricky. It sure seems that I-20 may be a sharp delineator with northern parts of those counties receiving warning criteria and southern portions of those counties barely warranting an advisory.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3993 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:52 pm

WacoWx wrote:NTXW, when are you going to make your accumulation prediction?


Where's Msstateguy when you need him!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3994 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:59 pm

I wasn’t joking last week when I said there was going to be a mix of everything and TxDot had their hands full.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3995 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:00 pm

Oh GFS, do you really want to do this now? :lol: :cold: :froze:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3996 Postby TropicalTundra » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:02 pm

We did not hit 40 today, currently 39.9F :lol: . So 4 degrees lower than original forecast and 2.1 lower than the models (42)

The thing is the models say we’ll hit freezing around midnight but warm up slightly as the moisture from the system makes its way in. If temps struggle to rise tonight the snow line will definitely shift.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3997 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:06 pm

I like the GFS showing the higher total band starting further west over me. But, we will see. Crazy to see the GFS really amping up totals.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3998 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:08 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Oh GFS, do you really want to do this now? :lol: :cold: :froze:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#3999 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:11 pm

I think RAP overdoes snowfall

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#4000 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:12 pm

WacoWx wrote:NTXW, when are you going to make your accumulation prediction?


I'll go bullish due to the QPF this storm is producing. Hope I am wrong and we get more :cheesy: !

1.25" QPF, of which .25 I think will be rain or freezing rain/sleet. 6-8" of snow for Dallas/Tarrant.

Denton County should be a little less qpf but colder profile slightly so I'll match 6-8" there.

Collin and Hunt I think will jackpot 6-10" with both higher qpf and good profile longer.
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