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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1041 Postby NC George » Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:43 pm

Evacuation order issued for the northern most section of the Outer Banks - the Off Road portion of Corolla, Currituck County. Overwash is expected to cut off the beach, which is the only access to the houses beyond.

https://www.witn.com/2025/08/20/curritu ... a-corolla/
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1042 Postby 72Packer » Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:06 pm

NC George wrote:Evacuation order issued for the northern most section of the Outer Banks - the Off Road portion of Corolla, Currituck County. Overwash is expected to cut off the beach, which is the only access to the houses beyond.

https://www.witn.com/2025/08/20/curritu ... a-corolla/


Even with a king tide and strong wind, these houses in Corova can get cut off when ocean goes up to the base of dunes. Just seeing overwatch in Buxton and on Ocracoke would have had me packing!
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1043 Postby canebeard » Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:23 am

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NC George wrote:Evacuation order issued for the northern most section of the Outer Banks - the Off Road portion of Corolla, Currituck County. Overwash is expected to cut off the beach, which is the only access to the houses beyond.

https://www.witn.com/2025/08/20/curritu ... a-corolla/


Even with a king tide and strong wind, these houses in Corova can get cut off when ocean goes up to the base of dunes. Just seeing overwatch in Buxton and on Ocracoke would have had me packing!


When you see overwash in Buxton, isn't Oregon Inlet already cut off by surge; making evacuation from the outer banks already impossible?
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1044 Postby mitchell » Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:41 am

canebeard wrote:
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NC George wrote:Evacuation order issued for the northern most section of the Outer Banks - the Off Road portion of Corolla, Currituck County. Overwash is expected to cut off the beach, which is the only access to the houses beyond.

https://www.witn.com/2025/08/20/curritu ... a-corolla/


Even with a king tide and strong wind, these houses in Corova can get cut off when ocean goes up to the base of dunes. Just seeing overwatch in Buxton and on Ocracoke would have had me packing!


When you see overwash in Buxton, isn't Oregon Inlet already cut off by surge; making evacuation from the outer banks already impossible?


this area (Corova, Corolla) is north of Oregon Inlet almost on the VA/NC border. Access to the mainland from this area doesn't involve crossing Oregon Inlet.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1045 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:38 am

Erin is massive
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1046 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:50 am

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1047 Postby kevin » Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:26 am

Erin is becoming quite a unique storm. The first recon pass found FL winds of only 83 kt near the eye of the storm, which would translate to an intensity of 75 to 85 kt depending on how strongly you factor in undersampling in such a big storm. A typical undersampling factor for such a large RMW (>30 nm) in a C1/C2 storm is about 10%, which balances the FL to surface wind conversion so in this case the FL values are pretty much the same as the surface wind estimate. However, the dropsonde shows a very intense storm with a central pressure of 948 mb. Furthermore, in the NE quadrant of Erin the plane found 99 kt FL winds which could support at least 90 to 95 kt.

For now I'd personally keep the intensity at 85 kt and the pressure at 948 mb, but this is a weird storm for sure. Almost starting to exhibit extratropical characteristics. Recon is finding hurricane force winds (still 77 kt FL) 85 miles north of the center. Almost giving me Sandy vibes.

Edit: Just checked and Sandy was still twice as big as Erin in terms of TS winds. So it's no Sandy. But still, Erin is definitely a very large hurricane. Hurricane force winds now extend farther than even Irma at her peak.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1048 Postby syfr » Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:27 am

BobHarlem wrote:Erin is massive
https://i.postimg.cc/YCjh9bn6/24484807.gif

SW quadrant really getting mashed in.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1049 Postby TomballEd » Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:38 am

kevin wrote:Erin is becoming quite a unique storm. The first recon pass found FL winds of only 83 kt near the eye of the storm, which would translate to an intensity of 75 to 85 kt depending on how strongly you factor in undersampling in such a big storm. A typical undersampling factor for such a large RMW (>30 nm) in a C1/C2 storm is about 10%, which balances the FL to surface wind conversion so in this case the FL values are pretty much the same as the surface wind estimate. However, the dropsonde shows a very intense storm with a central pressure of 948 mb. Furthermore, in the NE quadrant of Erin the plane found 99 kt FL winds which could support at least 90 to 95 kt.

For now I'd personally keep the intensity at 85 kt and the pressure at 948 mb, but this is a weird storm for sure. Almost starting to exhibit extratropical characteristics. Recon is finding hurricane force winds (still 77 kt FL) 85 miles north of the center. Almost giving me Sandy vibes.

Edit: Just checked and Sandy was still twice as big as Erin in terms of TS winds. So it's no Sandy. But still, Erin is definitely a very large hurricane. Hurricane force winds now extend farther than even Irma at her peak.


If I recall, Sandy was already merging with the trough that was pulling it back in and by satellite didn't look particularly tropical. Erin still looks like a tropical system.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1050 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:02 am

Looks like we have an eye again
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1051 Postby kevin » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:08 am

Has to be one of the coolest-looking hurricanes I've seen. Almost looks like a spiral band galaxy.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1052 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:17 am

Part of the eye becoming visible again, Still very cloud filled though.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1053 Postby HurricaneBelle » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:27 am

More impressively there's lightning in the core, something you don't usually see from mature hurricanes like this.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1054 Postby MarioProtVI » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:32 am

Erin’s broad size is preventing it from taking advantage of the favorable conditions. Very reminiscent of Earl 2022. Not quite sure it makes it back to Cat 3
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1055 Postby kevin » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:44 am

Pressure now down to ~941 mb (943 mb with 19 kt wind) based on the second dropsonde. That's a drop of roughly 7 mb since the previous dropsonde. Recon now also found 92 kt FL wind in the eyewall and again higher FL wind farther away from the eye, this time even 110 kt in the SE quadrant. The 92 kt measurement is definitely enough to keep the 85 kt intensity, I don't really know how to factor in the 110 kt FL measurement.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1056 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:56 am

MarioProtVI wrote:Erin’s broad size is preventing it from taking advantage of the favorable conditions. Very reminiscent of Earl 2022. Not quite sure it makes it back to Cat 3


Erin now has an eye again and has dropped 5mb between passes, it's definitely taking advantage of the more favorable conditions.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1057 Postby TallyTracker » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:20 am

The dry air in the spirals may help continue expanding the wind field and reducing peak wind speeds. The pressure may be insanely low though. That’s not uncommon with systems heading into the higher latitudes. Fiona landfalled as a post-tropical cyclone in Nova Scotia with 100 mph winds and a 931 mb central pressure.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1058 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:20 am

12Z Best Track:
AL, 05, 2025082012, , BEST, 0, 296N, 737W, 90, 948, HU


And the pressure has since dropped a further 7 millibars, you say? That's bound to translate into intensification and/or expansion of her wind field.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1059 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:27 am

Considering recent developments, it may be prudent for Bermuda to upgrade their tropical-storm watch to a tropical-storm warning.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#1060 Postby TampaWxLurker » Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:32 am

She's really feeling those hot SST's now.
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