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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1301 Postby snownado » Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:58 am

Brent wrote:Not sure about Tulsa but OKC is definitely top 10 which is crazy to me. I remember the posts from Arkansas about the record cold week to start never seen before and then it just all went poof like that

Ironically that was the only precip this month too. It's really been awful

We deserve a big flip in January haha


Indeed about the dryness. December 2025 will also be the 6th driest on record for DFW with only 0.08".
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1302 Postby snownado » Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:02 am

Ntxw wrote:
snownado wrote:Believe it or not, despite a roller coastet month tempwise, December 2025 is still on track for a top 10 warmest at DFW, possibly even tying or beating 2023 for #6...

For perspective, this will be the 3rd consecutive top 10 warmest December for DFW (2024 was #3) and 4th top 10 warmest December this decade (for those who might have forgot, 2021 sits at a extremely comfortable #1).


And Dec 2022 was saved by a singular dramatic arctic blast but still ended up +2.2F above normal. Had that not happened I have no doubt it would've been another top 10. Going forward, just predict above normal for December, you will be right 95% of the time even if it starts cold. Go back 10+ years and it's still all above normal. For all intents and purposes for us now December is an extended Fall month.


The 2001-2030 averages are really going to be something else.

Fortunately, we got a long while before we see them.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1303 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 31, 2025 10:22 am

Brent wrote:Not sure about Tulsa but OKC is definitely top 10 which is crazy to me. I remember the posts from Arkansas about the record cold week to start never seen before and then it just all went poof like that

Ironically that was the only precip this month too. It's really been awful

We deserve a big flip in January haha


45.5F currently in Tulsa will finish around that. Top 10, anywhere from 7-10, don't think it will surpass 46F for a top 5 run.

Tulsa Climo, NWS Tulsa has a great climate page!

https://www.weather.gov/tsa/climo_tuldecstemp

https://www.weather.gov/tsa/climo_tulrecbook#temp
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1304 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:00 am

snownado wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
snownado wrote:Believe it or not, despite a roller coastet month tempwise, December 2025 is still on track for a top 10 warmest at DFW, possibly even tying or beating 2023 for #6...

For perspective, this will be the 3rd consecutive top 10 warmest December for DFW (2024 was #3) and 4th top 10 warmest December this decade (for those who might have forgot, 2021 sits at a extremely comfortable #1).


And Dec 2022 was saved by a singular dramatic arctic blast but still ended up +2.2F above normal. Had that not happened I have no doubt it would've been another top 10. Going forward, just predict above normal for December, you will be right 95% of the time even if it starts cold. Go back 10+ years and it's still all above normal. For all intents and purposes for us now December is an extended Fall month.


The 2001-2030 averages are really going to be something else.

Fortunately, we got a long while before we seen them.


We're already running ahead of 2001-2030 averages. We're not getting the 2001-2015 numbers anymore, above that consistently 2015-current. So whatever the new average will be, it's a lagging indicator.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1305 Postby TomballEd » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:43 pm

Negative EPO, or as I think of it, flow up to the cold places up north can displace cold air to here. All that one can really look at this far out with any degree of confidence.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1306 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 31, 2025 12:44 pm

The next 7-10 days looks above normal, with minimal chances for precip. The prior models that showed storms from 3rd-8th is looking like it was a head-fake. +EPO regime we're looking to punt the first week-ish (not a surprise) but the EPO will likely flip to negative after the first week. We'll start seeing some cold and storms near mid month.

Ridge off the west and east coast still looks favorable for us. Mid month looks more like the real deal than the week prior.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1307 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:29 pm

Ensembles continue to look really good, operational models at this range are near useless, unless for fantasy fun purposes lol, i expect as we get closer to this time frame that the models will eventually get a lot more “ exciting” in my opinion.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1308 Postby txtwister78 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:35 pm

Mid month has been on repeat here the last several days so nothing has changed in that regard. Way too early however to start attaching type/severity level of cold just yet or anything to do with moisture but at least the signal is there of what we look for to setup the delivery of cold into our neck of the woods.

Above normal temps also still on track in the meantime. All about waiting at this point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1309 Postby Harp.1 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:37 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Ensembles continue to look really good, operational models at this range are near useless, unless for fantasy fun purposes lol, i expect as we get closer to this time frame that the models will eventually get a lot more “ exciting” in my opinion.

Are the GFS and Euro ensembles similar, or is there a disparity? Just curious
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1310 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:41 pm

Harp.1 both have a strong- EPO, but differences in the placement of the trough, EPS has a further east trough, but energy undercutting the block and an active STJ texas so still a favorable road for a winter storm across texas, GEFS has a more west- central based trough, both ensembles are still chilly though, in fact all the ensembles are
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1311 Postby Harp.1 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 1:51 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Harp.1 both have a strong- EPO, but differences in the placement of the trough, EPS has a further east trough, but energy undercutting the block and an active STJ texas so still a favorable road for a winter storm across texas, GEFS has a more west- central based trough, both ensembles are still chilly though, in fact all the ensembles are

Ok, thanks. I’m observing and watching from SE Louisiana, so I’m always interested in what happens in SE Texas. :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1312 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:05 pm

No problem, personally i would like to see the EPS back up more west with the trough, but i certainly cannot complain about what the ensembles show, i have a feeling someones going to win the jack pot down the road, we will see
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1313 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 6:17 pm

18z AI GFS looks similar to the 1985 january outbreak, looking at analog 500 mb height patterns, looks very similar to me, GFS looks decent as well, once that - EPO ridge pops off, its game on
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1314 Postby wxman22 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 6:22 pm

Norman is mentioning the potential pattern change.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1315 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Dec 31, 2025 6:29 pm

The AI GFS looks like a dream run. Save that one.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1316 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 6:58 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1317 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:06 pm

Trend on the 18z GEFS is for a deeper west central trough and a stronger - EPO ridge, should see even colder trends in the days ahead
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1318 Postby Harp.1 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:29 pm

Man, we just need those troughs to dig a little further west….
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1319 Postby wxman22 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:34 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#1320 Postby Sambucol2024 » Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:35 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Trend on the 18z GEFS is for a deeper west central trough and a stronger - EPO ridge, should see even colder trends in the days ahead


When should we start heading to the stores for winter preps :cold: :cold: ? :froze: :ggreen:
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