2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#101 Postby StPeteMike » Wed Mar 11, 2026 5:14 pm

Pardon the lack of knowledge, what makes this El Niño different from the El Niño we saw in 2023? If waters are already experiencing rapid warming and we see that spread out from the Gulf to the Caribbean and MDR, would we not have a similar setup to the 20 tropical storms we saw during 2023?

Besides an active development, the good thing is the lack of CONUS landfalls (minus Idalia).
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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#102 Postby mixedDanilo.E » Wed Mar 11, 2026 5:47 pm

cycloneye wrote:The Gulf waters are warming and Josh takes notice.

 https://x.com/iCyclone/status/2031567639579959475



I wouldn't be surprised if we have early season close to home development that even impacts the US. I noticed that a lot of early seasons in El Nino years especially, tend to have these quick spinups that happen in the northern gulf and along the gulf stream off the SE Coast, like Ana & Bill in 2015, Alberto and Chris in 2018, Arlene in 2023 and even Arthur in 2014.
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#103 Postby USTropics » Wed Mar 11, 2026 6:03 pm

StPeteMike wrote:Pardon the lack of knowledge, what makes this El Niño different from the El Niño we saw in 2023? If waters are already experiencing rapid warming and we see that spread out from the Gulf to the Caribbean and MDO, would we not have a similar setup to the 20 tropical storms we saw during 2023?

Besides an active development, the good thing is the lack of CONUS landfalls (minus Idalia).


If we're just looking at the current surface analysis and comparing to 2023, you could already see at this time in 2023 that the SSTA configuration would potentially allow for competing vertical ascent between the EPAC and NATL. Let's compare March 10th of both years (2023 and currently). Starting with 2023:

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Some things that jump out to me (1) clear MDR SSTA+ configuration, (2) Canary current has a clear warm signal, and (3) ENSO in the eastern Pacific is still a bit muted.

Now current SSTA configuration for 2026
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We have (1) MDR SSTA- configuration, (2) subtropics has the +SSTA, and (3) starting to see a stronger El Nino signal in the eastern Pacific.

Yes, both years had a strong +SSTA signal in the GOM, but there is no correlation there as a preseason indicator. That basin is extremely variable to intraseasonal changes. Personally, if we have a +SSTA signal in the eastern Pacific and a +SSTA signal in the subtropical NATL, subsidence dump is going to be concentrated in the MDR. There will be windows for development of course, but it's going to take additional forcing mechanisms (e.g., MJO and CCKW).

I will caveat that I am focusing particularly on the MDR here. This is where we typically see systems generate the most ACE and the ability to at least have some sort of forecast skill at this lead time exists. We can always have 'homegrown' systems in the GOM or in the subtropics, but the ability and forecast skill for that in March is essentially 0.
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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#104 Postby weeniepatrol » Wed Mar 11, 2026 9:58 pm

StPeteMike wrote:Pardon the lack of knowledge, what makes this El Niño different from the El Niño we saw in 2023? If waters are already experiencing rapid warming and we see that spread out from the Gulf to the Caribbean and MDR, would we not have a similar setup to the 20 tropical storms we saw during 2023?

Besides an active development, the good thing is the lack of CONUS landfalls (minus Idalia).


The Atlantic is much cooler this year and there’s no signs of an African standing wave like in 2023
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#105 Postby cycloneye » Thu Mar 12, 2026 6:49 pm

NMME analogs for NATL season based on the models +ENSO forecast are 1972, 1982, 1994, 1997, 2015.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/hsanalog/

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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#106 Postby StPeteMike » Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:05 pm

Thanks for the clarification folks! :D
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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#107 Postby mixedDanilo.E » Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:06 am

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2026031300/ecmwf_u850aMean_atl_11.png

I'm wondering if maybe the Atlantic might have a chance to begin warming up as we get towards the end of March and into April.
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#108 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:52 am

mixedDanilo.E wrote:https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2026031300/ecmwf_u850aMean_atl_11.png

I'm wondering if maybe the Atlantic might have a chance to begin warming up as we get towards the end of March and into April.

Last I posted these charts they showed the NAO remaining persistently positive, but now it appears there's a good chance it will dip headed into the second half of the month. I think there's a good chance we'll see a rebound of SSTs in the MDR should this verify, but we'll need this to last for quite some time and/or fall further into the negative phase in order to reach anything remotely close to 2023 levels (or at least to a point where it will be warm enough to provide substantial resistance to ENSO effects).
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I still think the Pacific configuration being more favorable (or unfavorable for the Atlantic) outside of ENSO this year will put more of a lid on the season than 2023 even if the tropical Atlantic manages to warm to decently above avg levels though.
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Re: 2026 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#110 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sat Mar 14, 2026 1:57 pm

Was gonna post the following in the ENSO thread in response to this, but it's probably better suited for here:

MDR activity during an El Niño normally isn't a complete wash, it's getting TCG past 55-60W that is the real challenge for these storms, given that's where the TUTT likes to wreck havoc during these years. 2023 really was an anomaly in that regard, I do think the abnormally warm SSTs and persistently entrenched ASW managed to disrupt the typical El Niño atmospheric circulation, providing storms with more ample opportunity to develop and/or thrive. I remember an early Euro run for Lee which showed a damn near picture perfect UL pattern with like quadruple outflow channels NE of the Antilles, and many of the nested hurricane intensity models were bombing it out to sub-900mb in the open Atlantic. It didn't occur of course, but with what they were depicting you would've never believed it was a strong Niño year lol. But the stars basically had to align to produce a 20/7/3 148 ACE season in the face of what is normally very hostile ENSO. I have serious reservations on that being the case yet again this year.
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