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WARNING: SENSITIVE 9/11 VIDEO

#1 Postby rockythehusky » Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:50 pm

This is a link I got off the camaro forum I visit. It is pretty disturbing.

http://pixla.px.cz/pentagon.swf
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#2 Postby coriolis » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:02 pm

The video didn't play. I tried the link in IE, and windows media player. It only showed the "9-11" and nothing else for over a minute.
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#3 Postby Miss Mary » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:03 pm

I'm not sure I want to click on it, is it live footage taken from 9/11? Of the Twin Towers (possibly people jumping to their deaths)? I ask because I'm not sure I'd want to see that. But then again maybe I'd never be able to play it anyway...

Just more info please. Thanks.

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#4 Postby GalvestonDuck » Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:34 pm

Sensitive...no. Ignorant...yes.

Don't worry, Mary. They never show the towers and the people in the windows.

It's one of those silly conspiracy sites where they think that 9/11 was orchestrated. It doesn't mention WTC or Pennsylvania, however. They only touch on the Pentagon and images of the attack there.
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#5 Postby Yankeegirl » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:47 pm

Very Interesting..... Something to think about...
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#6 Postby nystate » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:13 am

YankeeGirl wrote:Very Interesting..... Something to think about...


No, it isn't.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Does that guy even know what a 757 is made out of? Aluminum, like you find in a soda can. You didn't see much of the plane because, frankly, it was decimated. Hitting a reinforced concrete wall at 500-plus mph tends to do that.

Don't even bother listening to the eyewitness reports on the aircraft. Most people don't know a thing about aviation. For instance, one of the witnesses at the pentagon said he saw a "707" hit the building. He later changed his mind and said it was a "737." Obviously he didn't know what he was talking about...

The snopes site explains it all.
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#7 Postby Miss Mary » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:13 am

Well, thanks Shawn and Kelly. I'll just skip this video.

I was cleaning out closets the other day and came across various magazines I saved from 9/11 - all dated 2001. So I decided to read a few last night. After I finished I had the same heavy heart feeling I had on 9/11 and for days/weeks afterwards. That feeling in your gut you couldn't shake? The one that said was this all a bad dream or did it really happen feeling.....I am glad I kept these (Newsweek, Time, TV Guide, a special Life edition) but reading all of the first-hand accounts of survivors (what horrors they went thru to get to safety) just made me so profoundly SAD all over again.

I think I needed to re-read these articles.

Side note, A & E will air "The Anatomy of September 11" this coming Friday, September 10 from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. to 4 p.m (both EST). I managed to catch a few minutes of this look back at the last 102 minutes of the WTC when it aired last weekend. This is a special I've not seen before so it's possibly dated 2004? I highly recommend watching it if you need to watch 9/11 shows. I want to see it start to finish, that's why I'm waiting for the re-air date this Friday. It was that well done (from what little I watched).

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#8 Postby rockythehusky » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:00 am

Miss Mary wrote:I'm not sure I want to click on it, is it live footage taken from 9/11? Of the Twin Towers (possibly people jumping to their deaths)? I ask because I'm not sure I'd want to see that. But then again maybe I'd never be able to play it anyway...

Just more info please. Thanks.

Mary


There is nothing about the WTC or people jumping. Its a "Conspiracy Theory" video about the Pentagon explosion and how whoever made this film claim that a 757 never hit it because of the destruction found after. The person who made the video is claiming that there was no evidence of a 757 because the hole was so small, no cameras had ever seen it fly low over the interstate, and how videos that would have captured it from local businesses security systems were confiscated within minutes after the explosion.

**This is not my video nor am I trying to start a political BS war, I just thought it was an interesting video that I came across**
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#9 Postby alicia-w » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:17 am

Ordinarily I wouldnt even dignify this with a response. But people are entitled to their opinions and if someone saw this and found it disturbing, then that's their right.

I have several friends that worked in the Pentagon on 9/11, most made it out, a few did not. Working for the government for 25 years has made me somewhat of a cynic. I dont believe everything they tell me and examine whatever theories people have. You can believe what you want and discard the rest.
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#10 Postby Miss Mary » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:25 am

rockythehusky wrote:
Miss Mary wrote:I'm not sure I want to click on it, is it live footage taken from 9/11? Of the Twin Towers (possibly people jumping to their deaths)? I ask because I'm not sure I'd want to see that. But then again maybe I'd never be able to play it anyway...

Just more info please. Thanks.

Mary


There is nothing about the WTC or people jumping. Its a "Conspiracy Theory" video about the Pentagon explosion and how whoever made this film claim that a 757 never hit it because of the destruction found after. The person who made the video is claiming that there was no evidence of a 757 because the hole was so small, no cameras had ever seen it fly low over the interstate, and how videos that would have captured it from local businesses security systems were confiscated within minutes after the explosion.

**This is not my video nor am I trying to start a political BS war, I just thought it was an interesting video that I came across**


Rockythehusky - I didn't take offense to you posting a 9/11 video link. I just wanted more info before clicking on it. Just wanted to clarify that. Some people don't care to watch the many 9/11 tribute specials coming up, as I do, so to each his own I say. Please don't take offense to anything I posted, my comments were not directed at YOU.

Mary
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#11 Postby azskyman » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:09 am

I did watch the video...and while it is based on an interesting hypothesis, I also know that there would have been some eyewitnesses to collaborate the investigation. It would be far more unrealistic to think that every survivor, every neighbor, every vehicle driving by, and even every family of those lost on the plane would be silent about such a deviation from the events of that day.

Part of any investigation is to look at all the evidence...ALL the evidence, and derive some conclusions. The hypothesis in this video simply has too many holes in it to be given any credibility.
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#12 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:28 am

I thought it was a cool video clip, I like this kind of stuff (Conspiracy Theory) and I DON'T believe everything OUR Goverment says anyway because THEY lie to us the people of this country all the time.

Any time someone confiscates security camara systems within minutes of a MAJOR event and never lease any of the film to backup their claims of what happen is Bullsh*ting the public.
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#13 Postby nystate » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:59 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:I thought it was a cool video clip, I like this kind of stuff (Conspiracy Theory) and I DON'T believe everything OUR Goverment says anyway because THEY lie to us the people of this country all the time.

Any time someone confiscates security camara systems within minutes of a MAJOR event and never lease any of the film to backup their claims of what happen is Bullsh*ting the public.


So it makes more sense to you that our Government would somehow do something like this than the people (Al Qaeda) who have the means, the hatred, and the know-how to pull off such a stunt?

Stuff like this is more wishful thinking than reality...
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#14 Postby Lindaloo » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:07 pm

Hogwash.
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#15 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:58 pm

nystate wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:I thought it was a cool video clip, I like this kind of stuff (Conspiracy Theory) and I DON'T believe everything OUR Goverment says anyway because THEY lie to us the people of this country all the time.

Any time someone confiscates security camara systems within minutes of a MAJOR event and never lease any of the film to backup their claims of what happen is Bullsh*ting the public.


So it makes more sense to you that our Government would somehow do something like this than the people (Al Qaeda) who have the means, the hatred, and the know-how to pull off such a stunt?

Stuff like this is more wishful thinking than reality...


NYstate,

You miss the point of subject "Conspiracy Theory". I know our Goverment had nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. The point made in the video clip was The damage to the Pentagon on September 11 was caused by something other than a hijacked Boeing 757's being crashed into its side.
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#16 Postby nystate » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:20 pm

NYstate,

You miss the point of subject "Conspiracy Theory". I know our Goverment had nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. The point made in the video clip was The damage to the Pentagon on September 11 was caused by something other than a hijacked Boeing 757's being crashed into its side.



The website in the thread starter that the video is on is responded to and disproved in the snopes.com article I posted earlier.
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#17 Postby nystate » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:40 pm

I also did a little digging and found this-

http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/09/11/witnesses/index.html

Washington, a woman who was driving into the city on Interstate 395 as the Pentagon was attacked:

"As we were driving into town on 395, there was exit -- we were trying to get off the exit for the Memorial Bridge. Off to the left-hand side was a commercial plane that came in -- it was coming too fast, too low. And the next thing we saw was it go down below the side of the road, and we just saw the fire that came up after that."


Washington, Mike Walter, USA Today, on the road when a jet slammed into the Pentagon:

"I was sitting in the northbound on 27 and the traffic was, you know, typical rush-hour -- it had ground to a standstill. I looked out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an American Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, it's really low.'

"And I saw it. I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon.

"Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out. And then it was chaos on the highway as people tried to either move around the traffic and go down, either forward or backward.

"We had a lady in front of me, who was backing up and screaming, 'Everybody go back, go back, they've hit the Pentagon.'

"It was just sheer terror."
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#18 Postby streetsoldier » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:05 pm

Oh, yeah...my "rabid Clintonista" brother in WI sent me a link to this BS.

I didn't bother to send back a response. :roll:
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#19 Postby Mayberry » Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Interesting video and theory. Quite frankly, who needs it? We all suffered the pain of 9/11 and will this change anything? No!

9/11 is etched in our hearts and minds just as November 22, 1963 was. Look at all of the crazy theories after that.

Instead of wasting our time with this, say a prayer instead for those who died and for their families who remain in deeper pain than we will ever know.

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