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#4301 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:08 pm

Lockhart wrote:Typical. A comment saying it'll put South Florida in more danger, and when asked for a reason, there is none. Thanks a lot.


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#4302 Postby ilmc172pilot » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:09 pm

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Latest vortex=923 mbs=141 kt NW QUAD,C18 miles diameter

#4303 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:11 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 111730
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 11/1730Z
B. 17 DEG 58 MIN N
   78 DEG 53 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2414 M
D. 80 KT
E. 323 DEG 067 NM
F. 049 DEG 141 KT
G. 309 DEG 012 NM
H. 923 MB
I. 10 C/ 3101 M
J. 17 C/ 3089 M
K. 16 C/ NA
L. CLOSED
M. C18
N. 12345/07
O. 0.1/ 1 NM
P. AF966 2009A IVAN OB 04
   MAX FL WIND 141 KT NW QUAD 1726Z.
   MAX FL TEMP 19C 304/06 NM FROM FL CNTR
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#4304 Postby air360 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:11 pm

yes, i agree...i have seen some saying this is one of the ULL that will be involved with the N turn for ivan...but when looking at it it sure seems to have alot of spin and in many ways looks like a very minimal tropical system in many ways...could this be something forming or is it nothing more than a spin of clouds?
(located around 65 and 30 degrees)
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CMC trending west

#4305 Postby corpusbreeze » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:12 pm

I have noticed the cmc is starting to trend west. It has been one of the best models with this Ivan. Maybe the west coast of the GOM isnt off the hook. I wonder how big Ivan could be if it got to travel over that hot untouched water?
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#4306 Postby Pebbles » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:14 pm

You can see it on the water vapor too if you slow down the animation and zoom in on the eye

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

Here's another learning link on mesovorticies

http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=m ... 1&.intl=us
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#4307 Postby das8929 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:14 pm

Lol. Omg now theyre saying the West Coast. Whats next Brownsville?? This is seriously making me mad. THIS IS A PANHANDLE STORM.
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IVAN'S TRACK..........

#4308 Postby bobbisboy » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:14 pm

I don't not know whether IVAN will make his turn at 80 or 90 or somewhere in between but what I do feel strongly about is that once that happens, wherever that is, the track is not going to be some gentle bend but a sharp turn north for a good stretch. DT has made this point several times and as to the aspect of his analysis, I think he is dead on. Now it is just a matter of waiting until that turn comes. The slowdown indicates perhaps it may be sooner than later.
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Re: CMC trending west

#4309 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:16 pm

corpusbreeze wrote:I have noticed the cmc is starting to trend west. It has been one of the best models with this Ivan. Maybe the west coast of the GOM isnt off the hook. I wonder how big Ivan could be if it got to travel over that hot untouched water?


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation

Yeah, way, way, way west. We might even get this thing to Texas before it's all said and done.
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#4310 Postby washington » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:16 pm

What is Mike McCall say about the storm. I heard he said we should not worry about it jsut yet. I wanted to see did he change his tone.
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#4311 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:16 pm

Yes I think so. Everyone has been saying west, west, west, so it is inevitable that it will strike somewhere in either Texas or Mexico probably as an histerically large, Texas sized storm!!! Better watch out over there!
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#4312 Postby das8929 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:17 pm

Watch out Cancun!!
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#4313 Postby air360 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:17 pm

doesnt anyone have any information on this ...is it nothing..or something?
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#4314 Postby bwstg » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:17 pm

Lockhart wrote:Typical. A comment saying it'll put South Florida in more danger, and when asked for a reason, there is none. Thanks a lot.


Nobody here is going to put their neck on the line like that. Whether their professionals or not. I still believe it will go east. I don't see the sudden wide west and then north west like the tracks are hinting at. This is my guess, and like all guesses on this, its in line with all opther GUESSES, but this one is mine all mine. :)
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#4315 Postby Zadok » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:18 pm

This monster is not coming to Florida!Image
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#4316 Postby corpusbreeze » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:18 pm

das8929 wrote:Lol. Omg now theyre saying the West Coast. Whats next Brownsville?? This is seriously making me mad. THIS IS A PANHANDLE STORM.
Well alright now. May mother nature grant your comand. Take a chill pill.
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#4317 Postby das8929 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:18 pm

They might as well post hurricane watches from Key West to Brownsville because those are all the places it could possibly hit, according to some people.
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BBC is reporting 2 deaths in Jamaica so far

#4318 Postby KBBOCA » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:18 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/3648084.stm

BBC is reporting at least 2 deaths in Jamaica

HURRICANE TOLL

Grenada: At least 17 dead
Venezuela: 5 killed
Dominican Republic: 4 killed
Jamaica: 2 killed
Tobago: 1 killed
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18z tropical suite--further west,thru Yucatan channel

#4319 Postby rockyman » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:19 pm

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#4320 Postby Anonymous » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:19 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Jekyhe32210 wrote:Wow--theres a model on crack for ya :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why do you say that?


This model is obviously basing its track on the current heading---which would make the turn later... But Ivan is crawling and likely to make that turn a lot sooner and sharper than the model is showing---as models showed tampa landfall with Charley, and got a track well right, I would expect Ivan to go well right of the models again... Hopefull they will get back on track...
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