This is funny, now moving NNE?

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This is funny, now moving NNE?

#1 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:44 pm

O.K. as I've said before satellites don't
lie. What do think?

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... &itype=vis
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#2 Postby MWatkins » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:00 pm

I think your satellite estimates are in complete contrast to what recon has reported in the last 2 fixes...which is actually a littel south of due east fix to fix.

Satellite interpration is not easy stuff...especially with sheared systems.

4:30PM
A. 08/2026Z
B. 24 DEG 18 MIN N
93 DEG 57 MIN W

3:19PM
A. 08/1919Z
B. 24 DEG 21 MIN N
94 DEG 04 MIN W

MW
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#3 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:05 pm

MWatkins wrote:I think your satellite estimates are in complete contrast to what recon has reported in the last 2 fixes...which is actually a littel south of due east fix to fix.

Satellite interpration is not easy stuff...especially with sheared systems.

4:30PM
A. 08/2026Z
B. 24 DEG 18 MIN N
93 DEG 57 MIN W

3:19PM
A. 08/1919Z
B. 24 DEG 21 MIN N
94 DEG 04 MIN W

MW


I'm not disagreeing with what recon found at all. I'm just noting
what the satellite images show. I think you also need to read
the NHC's discussion on Matthew before locking in on the eastward track.
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#4 Postby TampaFl » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:09 pm

IMOH I think the slight skip makes it appear to be moving nne. IMOH it appears to me to still be moving e to ene.

Robert 8-)
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#5 Postby MWatkins » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:20 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
MWatkins wrote:I think your satellite estimates are in complete contrast to what recon has reported in the last 2 fixes...which is actually a littel south of due east fix to fix.

Satellite interpration is not easy stuff...especially with sheared systems.

4:30PM
A. 08/2026Z
B. 24 DEG 18 MIN N
93 DEG 57 MIN W

3:19PM
A. 08/1919Z
B. 24 DEG 21 MIN N
94 DEG 04 MIN W

MW


I'm not disagreeing with what recon found at all. I'm just noting
what the satellite images show. I think you also need to read
the NHC's discussion on Matthew before locking in on the eastward track.


1. Carefull...I'm not making any sort of forecast here. Don't pin me to one...I didn't make one.

2. Satellite images are not showing the center moving NNE at all. Whatever you see moving NNE is not the center of the system.

3. I read the NHC discussion. I am not in disagreement with it at all.

MW
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#6 Postby recmod » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:32 pm

That satellite loop you linked to shows the cloud TOPS moving off to the NE, but the partially exposed LLC is definitely not moving NNE.
--Lou
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#7 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:35 pm

MWatkins wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
MWatkins wrote:I think your satellite estimates are in complete contrast to what recon has reported in the last 2 fixes...which is actually a littel south of due east fix to fix.

Satellite interpration is not easy stuff...especially with sheared systems.

4:30PM
A. 08/2026Z
B. 24 DEG 18 MIN N
93 DEG 57 MIN W

3:19PM
A. 08/1919Z
B. 24 DEG 21 MIN N
94 DEG 04 MIN W

MW


I'm not disagreeing with what recon found at all. I'm just noting
what the satellite images show. I think you also need to read
the NHC's discussion on Matthew before locking in on the eastward track.


1. Carefull...I'm not making any sort of forecast here. Don't pin me to one...I didn't make one.

2. Satellite images are not showing the center moving NNE at all. Whatever you see moving NNE is not the center of the system.

3. I read the NHC discussion. I am not in disagreement with it at all.

MW


I was not trying to pin you down on a forecast.
I'm sorry for you though that.

Here is the satellite loop I was looking at. If that
is the center I'm seeing is the exposed one then where do you
think it's moving? If it's easterly then I guess I must have
missed the center. I do see the convection building
on the east side though.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... &itype=vis

My point on mentioning the discussion was the uncertainty
if the future track not to argue a point.
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#8 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:36 pm

recmod wrote:That satellite loop you linked to shows the cloud TOPS moving off to the NE, but the partially exposed LLC is definitely not moving NNE.
--Lou


Is it moving eastward?
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#9 Postby dhweather » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:36 pm

The southwesterly shear is giving the appearance of nne/ne movement. The center is about 090.
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#10 Postby QueenBee » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:41 pm

dhweather the center is not 090.
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#11 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:48 pm

QueenBee wrote:dhweather the center is not 090.


He means that the center is moving at 090.

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#12 Postby vacanechaser » Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:58 pm

it is very clear that even in the link he sent, it is off to the east.... maybe just slightly north of due east.... but that could be just the shear... looks east to me...
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#13 Postby Rainband » Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:15 pm

I agree
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